Official Sony Q1 (April-June) 2008 Financials Thread

[Rangers]

I thinks thats what they always meant with shipped .

Nah, Sony used to count rolling off the assembly line as shipped. This caused some wild inconsistencies in the past.

These numbers are still not directly connected to WW sales..for example there was quarters last year where 360 only shipped 500-700K despite sales being a lot better than that. Due to them overstocking to hit 10 m the prior year.

Overall that stuff equalizes out in the long run though. And the reason I like these numbers so much is they really cant be fudged, and account for the whole world, including places you could never get reliable sales figures for.

 

[Archgamer]

Previous Q PS3 gained nearly 1m units WW on 360 (2.24 vs 1.3) so I'm not sure why the relative decline. Either PS3 is performing weaker in Europe or PS3 had excess stock from prior.

It probably has mostly to do with the fact that Sony is clearly out the stock of the 40 gig PS3 to bring the entry of the new 80 gig modal coming out the end of next month.

 

[Carl B]

It probably has mostly to do with the fact that Sony is clearly out the stock of the 40 gig PS3 to bring the entry of the new 80 gig modal coming out the end of next month.

I hardly think they were out of stock at the end of June - afterall, they had plenty of consoles to sell in July, right? PS3 sales were over twice what they were a year ago... I don't think we need to be fishing for any reasons why they weren't higher honestly.

 

[betan]

I don't remember hearing about any supply issues before July.
Another interesting question is why revenues of 3rd party publishers like EA and Ubisoft do not reflect 360/PS3 userbase properly.
from EA's Q1 report:

                         Q1      Q2      Q3      Q4      Q1     YOY %
                        FY08     FY08    FY08    FY08    FY09  Change
                       ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------


PLATFORM NET REVENUE
 MIX

 PLAYSTATION 3              13      17     102     152     139    969%
 Xbox 360                   47     218     196     128      81     72%
 PlayStation 2              61      73     301     166      79     30%
 Wii                        29      59     139      75      57     97%
 Xbox                        3      12       3       1       -  (100%)
 Nintendo GameCube           1       3       1       -       -  (100%)
  Total Consoles           154     382     742     522     356    131%

 PC                         89      79     148     114      86    (3%)

http://investor.ea.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=88189&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1180823

 

[eastmen]

wonder what the release lists were like in q4 08 and q1 09 that the ps3 pulled ahead in terms of software sales for ea.

i wonder if this has to do with the weaker competition on the ps3 . But its good to see the ps3 numbers in crease so much

 

[Carl B]

After listening to the conference call the software decrease/increase discrepancy I mentioned in the OP was clarified. The total units of software sold did indeed increase as reflected in those numbers, so PS3 at 22.8 million vs 4.8 million last year. The reason why they are "lower" than last year is because even with greater unit sales overall, the revenue/income was lower.

The reason for this was explained as lower per-unit pricing among the PS2 units sold, and a software mix that didn't feature as many 1st party games as has historically been the case for the platforms (more money made from 1st party obviously).

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Q end 6/30/08 cumulative WW shipments:

PS3=14.41 m
360=20.3 m

Q ended 6/30/08 quarterly WW shipments

PS3=1.56 m
360= 1.3 m

I wanted to link VGChartz's numbers, but they pay close attention to this thread and have already adjusted them
Yesterday they had 360 at ~19.5 million and PS3 at ~15.5 million.

Funny how a nearly 6 million units difference is percieved as a 4 million difference...

 

[Strange]

I wanted to link VGChartz's numbers, but they pay close attention to this thread and have already adjusted them
Yesterday they had 360 at ~19.5 million and PS3 at ~15.5 million.

Funny how a nearly 6 million units difference is percieved as a 4 million difference...

Odd, I've been keeping track and I've seen an approxmately 5.5 Million unit difference for about 2 weeks or so. Doesn't seem different today.

360 20.00 M vs PS3 14.47 M for the record

 

[catisfit]

Very odd, I get their RSS updates (for what they're worth) and looking back over every single PS3 total update over the past month:

29th - 14.47m
29th - 14.51m
23rd - 14.48m
22nd - 14.47m
21st - 14.41m
20th - 14.27m
18th - 14.22m
17th - 14.15m
16th - 14.14m
15th - 13.96m
2nd - 13.84m
2nd - 13.82m
1st - 13.77m

No sign of anything even approaching 15.5m

 

[-tkf-]

360 20.00 M vs PS3 14.47 M for the record

Is this a worldwide number? i am confused if this is true.

 

[djskribbles]

same, i've never seen the PS3 at 15.5 on vgchartz.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

Let's not turn this into a 'how right/wrong are VGChartz' numbers thread, please!