Official Sony PR thread

The problem is, almost all info we get about embedded devices that are not on the market are from their vendors :LOL: Heck, even Dave's Xenos article is PR as it lacks benchmark figures. Screenshots are game PR too. If you count all those info as PR, what we have are only patents and first-hand game playing impressions.
 
If you wish to discuss a topic in one particular article then by all means create a thread on it. But why would one just post a link or some text in quotes and not have anything to add to the thread itself? If you want to discuss the topic then I suggest that you actually give people a reason to discuss it and not just post a link in a new thread with informatin that can easily fit in here.
 
Sonic said:
If you wish to discuss a topic in one particular article then by all means create a thread on it. But why would one just post a link or some text in quotes and not have anything to add to the thread itself? If you want to discuss the topic then I suggest that you actually give people a reason to discuss it and not just post a link in a new thread with informatin that can easily fit in here.
So, is it OK to post a thread like this format, "someone said blah blah" + my own interpretation and commentary? To avoid confusion, it's nice if there's a predefined format to start such a thread. I've avoided that style as the first post in a thread sometimes tends to have bigger influence in the following discussion while I expect an objective, free discussion, so just putting things on the table was my preferred style.
 
So it would be best just to link or post the article and have no thoughts on it? What's the point of posting it if you will not provide your own thoguhts on the interview or article?
 
Sonic said:
So it would be best just to link or post the article and have no thoughts on it? What's the point of posting it if you will not provide your own thoguhts on the interview or article?
"Just FYI" or "I'll listen to you all about how you interpret it, then comment later on" ;)

Anyway, if we need a dedicated PR thread, then we may have to build an analyst thread.
 
Well if you do make such a thread please go ahead and tell these people that you would like to know their thoughts on the thread. What mckmas, and a few others have done is just post links and offer no direction in how the thread should go.
 
Regards said PR interview, nothing really stands out. Suggestions of a 2x1:6 Home 'Server' - what would it do? Though the good news is someone's offering a rival to MS and Apple, maybe get a more wind into the computer scene and hopefully tackle a lot of the existing flaws.

That, and 'nothing compares to PS3'! He really DOES love his product :oops:
 
PS3 to release in Europe Spring 2006

PS3 TO HIT EUROPE IN SPRING 2006

Sony Europe executive pins spring release date on next-gen PlayStation, worldwide release possible...

11:37 Sony's PS3 is likely to launch in Europe sometime during the spring of 2006, according to the boss of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe.
Speaking at today's ELSPA International Games Summit in London, SCEE's president and chief operating officer David Reeves said, "I like to think the PS3 will launch in Europe around the same time as Kutaragi-san has already mentioned - spring 2006."

Ken Kutaragi, the creator of the PlayStation and PS3 top dog, boldly claimed at Sony's pre-E3 press conference that the next-gen console would be ready for spring next year.

And reports doing the rounds after E3 suggested that us long-suffering Europeans would not have to endure the usual delay in bringing a new console to this continent.

Now Reeves' comments have strengthened suggestions that Sony may aim for a near-simultaneous worldwide release for PS3.
Sony rival Microsoft plans to launch the Xbox 360 around the world in November. Sony may feel that it cannot afford to hold the PS3 back from certain territories at the risk of losing market share to 360.

Nintendo's Revolution is not expected until later in 2006, although speculative reports this morning point to a surprisingly early launch.


Huh? What? Ok lets go then PS3 is ready. 8) *gets key to turn on motorcycle*

Link http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=120711
 
"I like to think the PS3 will launch in Europe around the same time as Kutaragi-san has already mentioned - spring 2006."

Sounds like he has no clue when its coming out . Lets wiat till sony puts ou some offical news before we jump to conclusions this isn't office space
 
Seems MS' tactic of a launch-in-every-territory-at-the-'same'-time tactic is forcing Sony to do the same?

Kudos to MS for trying something 'ridiculous' like a worldwide launch and putting some pressure on the competition.

I like it.
 
Bobbler said:
Seems MS' tactic of a launch-in-every-territory-at-the-'same'-time tactic is forcing Sony to do the same?

Kudos to MS for trying something 'ridiculous' like a worldwide launch and putting some pressure on the competition.

I like it.

Oh i like it too. Very much so. Only thing is... In the end it will be the same thing cause before most people can get their hands on a unit, months will have gone by... That's what happened with PS2, and it wasn't even a simultaneous launch.
 
london-boy said:
Oh i like it too. Very much so. Only thing is... In the end it will be the same thing cause before most people can get their hands on a unit, months will have gone by... That's what happened with PS2, and it wasn't even a simultaneous launch.

Not to mention that it had a 200€ Premium over US and Japane (sold at around 500 for the first six months or so) :devilish:
 
Dan Reeves says that they are ready for MS.


"Despite Microsoft's ambitious goals, Sony says it's ready to take the fight to the Redmond giant.

Microsoft will launch its next generation Xbox this Christmas and has plans to get the new console into 10 million living rooms within the first 12-16 months. That doesn't worry Sony.


"We're ready," said David Reeves, president of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, at the International Games Summit, taking place in London.

The PlayStation 3 came out on top after last month's E3 trade conference and is headed to retail early next year. The next major outing for the console will be at September's Tokyo Game Show, where some are expecting Sony to have playable games.

Reeves took a shot at Microsoft's ambitious early targets too, saying: "First mover advantage is there if you have momentum, but not really if you're standing still."

And it's not clear yet how long of a window of opportunity Microsoft will have. Reeves admitted that he had no idea when PlayStation 3, which is set for release in Japan next spring, would launch in Europe.

Reeves added that exact launch dates would be decided on towards the end of the year, and that he hoped Europe would see the new console during spring 2006 as well."
 
london-boy said:
Reeves admitted that he had no idea when PlayStation 3, which is set for release in Japan next spring, would launch in Europe.

Errr... o_O

Thats not good.....this has to be quite possibly the only reason why I won't move to Europe....If I do end up moving there for any reason, I would probably import from America...
 
london-boy said:
Reeves admitted that he had no idea when PlayStation 3, which is set for release in Japan next spring, would launch in Europe.

Errr... o_O
Even in mckmass's post about it launching in europe in spring he said he wasn't sure . I don't think we will see a world launch. They are just playing dumb to get people to wait as long as possible
 
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SCEI Hisashi 夛 it is good wooden president interview (5)
"As for the following step of PS3, Cell computing"


- Cell foam/home server the following development

< Q > When PS3, it does not mean that specification is bound hard, is a kind of format, in the past you asked. With PS3 architecture, the product of another form factor, for example as for the foam/home server how becoming?

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > If that much you do (PS3), if disk array is stacked in storage, either the air that is not done, it ends (also the correspondence to foam/home server use).

We want Cell to so and storage side. For example, it searches at various mono high speed and/or it gathers converts. For example, just the data where someone's face has entered from midst of enormous animated picture is pulled out when. Even at the contents っ て home in the house it becomes the world of TB. So when it becomes, it probably is appearance of the Cell based foam/home server. If it is not Cell, as for without being possible and we would like to doing there is about a mountain.

For example, the pan stacking HDD, the majority () doing to record broadcast program entirely, you apply various recognition simultaneously in the data which (was recorded). So when it does, it reaches the point where it can search freely.

In addition, if there is a video data of レガシー, maturing, it keeps dropping to the bit. As for, "maturing", processing that with audio is made the sound which noise is possible to shave. If the kind of processing retouch the photograph 撮 which takes jitter from the picture, filtering it does audio, takes with the digital camera, it processes automatically at the speed where the server is enormous, it is delightful. When you do with PC, it becomes the job where enormous time is required, but if the Cell foam/home server maturing, can be made simpler.


- The cutdown edition of Cell rides in also TV?

< Q > In decoder built-in TV, as for the possibility of placing Cell as the CPU& full programmable decoder how being?

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > The Cell server, unless it is Cell, it cannot make absolute, if or Intel does not make those above the same as Cell, the excessiveness therefore, this with Cell it probably can go. But, as for TV, now in inch competition and beauty competition, direction is different.

Therefore, because as for TV, PS3 two supports the output of 1080p, that for the time being, please connect (PS3) to TV with HDMI. (The data) 100% being pure digital from PS3, because it comes out, it is beautiful. Though, as for HDMI interface, now there is only interlace. Therefore, it has been about probably to pull steadily 1080p correspondence, with PS3. For the time being, in TV the positioning, PS3.

To if so and HDTV becomes natural, TV it is it becomes desired function. Therefore, it reaches the point where Cell will be recorded before also TV in the future probably will be.


As an order PS3, the Cell foam/home server, (Cell loading) TV kana.
< Q > When give the intelligence more on TV side you want, when becoming, when Cell becomes necessary.

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > The person that it is we want immediately even with TV. For example, BD (Blu-ray Disc) and, ARIB (Corporation radio wave industrial meeting) various formats, or net transmission. When such many format will be supported. It is not possible either and, to process at everything ASIC, it is not, but it is. For example, with also just BD, when all application formats in the specifications chart are placed (in ASIC), when it becomes, now directly probably is unreasonable. If so, there is Cell, it can make サクッ. Originally but it is to call even with ASIC if there is Cell, because most it can take a shortcut, it has interest in Cell.

< Q > ASSP which can give program characteristic (for specific use the standard product), or with can being also a solution, CPU core + private logic.

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > If just broadcast however perhaps, is sufficient ASSP the net comes, when the progressive (the data) comes, when becoming, as for corresponding to all processing unless (it is the full programmable) processor, you think that it is unreasonable.

< Q > When the format increases, unless it is the processor which can do soft correspondence LSI it is normal for processing to be difficult. So, cost how being?

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > First, as a just a little part perhaps Cell, it is high. If so there is no method in other things, there is no ginger. In addition, it is possible also channel 12 indications, 1,000 sum nails, Cell to train and to say. Assuming, that the private processor was made, the cutdown edition of Cell either one probably will cheaply be attached. If (Cell, the method) of making cheap in the future is a lot of.


- The Cell computing which starts from home

< Q > As the following step of Cell, there is a Cell computing which does distributed processing with network. The story that in the past was asked it actualizes Cell computing in the past, and inside home next expands to wide area network.

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > Because of that, Gigabit Ethernet was attached (to PS3). When uniting network in the house, because we would like to connect at the MAX band width. The inside of the house (is ideal environment) in various sense such as band widening. Therefore, that naturally, it probably is Gigabit. Truth is not enough even Gigabit. Therefore, it will designate no year oak cod PHY as 10Gibabit. Furthermore as for the next 100Gigabit we would like to go. However also the argument, 40Gigabit it is, we would like to carry to 100Gibabit.

< Q > Because network becomes the bus of computing, local network, the notion that where we want sufficient zone, as a bus?

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > Is not just because of computing. To a camera, when IP CAM of the full HD resolution which is touched with E3 is, almost it is close to the first-hand data, when mono transferring, it is not enough even with Gigabit. However, calling HD, at the highest, 2 Mega pixels. In the times when the digital camera are several Mega pixels, only it is that. Therefore, not only Cell computing and when transferring the data of the て, audio or video, without fail it becomes necessary. Of course, there is also a method of thinking, て private interface not to be Ethernet, but I with Ethernet, would like to go after all with IP.

< Q > For Cell computing, software Cell (the object format for the distributed processing of Cell) the steering wheel the expectation where the software layer which is done becomes necessary for on OS. When mounting?

< Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person > Already, inside the company research is being advanced steadily. You do from sometime? That is order, don't you think?.

First PS3 is started in any case. If PS3 therefore (hardware) the reason which entirely becomes ready, try Cell OS to correspond (to software Cell). So when it does, at a certain point in time, the Cell computing plural PS3 and Cell which are connected to network to communicate mutually actualizes. Therefore as for Cell computing, vision of our bases, be sure to actualize.

In addition, we would like to maintain secure state accurately at hardware level the various data and the program when flying about, on network as a module. Cell has that with the hardware.


In case of Microsoft, because (also security) becomes the software solution, be sure to be torn with the software. The largest merit of Cell unique, Cell mono it being, can move the data and the program in secure state. If anything building joy (Bill Joy, Chief Scientist of the origin Sun Microsystems and the joint founder) it is close to the conception of former times. Also the building joy person had been excited enormously (with Cell).

- Cell computing the goal of SCEI

The following development of PS3 means the other device which naturally places the Cell processor. With the Cell on-board equipment, those where there is a close range are the Cell foam/home server. Hisashi 夛 well the wooden person talks even with other interview concerning the Cell foam/home server, but those where there is this conception, storage doing the data simply, are not the sufficient machine which it transmits. Doing maturing the data, high quality it keeps making the data with automatically, the system which acquires the added value such as that is supposed.

Because that when you say (excessive) in the mere foam/home server, why as for the reason being simple, the performance of Cell overkill is. If just the trance cord/code and stream transmission of the data, in just throughput of the extremely portion of Cell suffices. Then, it is the conception that it probably will be turned to the job to which added value can acquire enormous surplus computing power, more.

As for the advantage of Cell, it is to be able to use enormous computing power, full programmable. As for fixed functional decoder/encoder ASIC and ASSP, high speed as for processing it being possible, it does not have pliability. Because of that, like BD when decoding the multiple format will be necessary, it tries to correspond to the various formats of net transmission, correspondence becomes difficult. If the tip/chip which has the pliability which can give program characteristic is made, Cell and either one the using and the watermelon becomes the story which is said. Because of that, it is the case that it is the chance where it can permeate to decoder built-in TV and STB Cell.

The problem of present Cell when it is applied to the use of this hand clearly overkill is the point where it is the tip/chip. Perhaps, the small cutdown edition tip/chip of constitution, is easy to introduce to the equipment of this hand from present Cell. The SONY computer entertainment (SCEI) what is thought in the same way is found from interview.

PS3 has been related closely with Cell computing conception. Cell computing that when you say, what between the Cell processor with respect to network, communicating with Pia two Pia, does distributed processing in real time. When Cell computing actualizes, not only PS3 of the single unit, using also the performance of other Cell with respect to network, from it reaches the point where it can execute also the big software of scale. If Cell computing is done on Internet, theoretically, it means that also the computing power which exceeds the terrestrial simulator largely enters into the hand.

Former Hisashi 夛 with interview to the wooden person, as for Cell computing we have been related with the essence of the Cell processor well, SCEI being serious, it is found that it is the intention of promoting. Hardware, from first PS3 it has made Cell computing ready.

As for the first step of Cell computing, network inside the home where you can obtain the network of レイテンシ low simply with wide band. Between the plural Cell on-board equipment which enter into home, the distributed processing with Cell computing it does it is the conception which is said uninformed. Puzzle "of 3 ports Gigabit of the puzzle Ethernet" of PS3 means to be unravelled once with this. Not only Internet, it is the case that in order to tie between the Cell equipment with wide band, 3 it could pick the port of Gigabit.

In addition, as for the wide band of Gigabit, you say that it is necessary for also the transfer of the raw multimedia data. It is thought that because, there is a conception that in the conception of PS3 with Cell it processes the data in セントリック. With the equipment of the terminal, it is not to compress the data, it has in Cell and would like to compress there, it is presumed that it means that data pass of wide band is needed because of that.

When the patent which is seen as the relation of Cell of SCEI is read, with Cell, what it has been about to define the object format "software Cell" in order to do distributed processing conversion is found. Software Cell, can house, various information such as address and necessary computing resource of the delivery original Cell processor with respect to network in the header and the like. By the fact that the format of object is stipulated, it will try to be able to actualize real time distributed processing smoothly, is the concept of Cell. As for by the way, exchanging with software Cell SPE (Synergistic Processor Element) just the program is supposed.

Because of that, for actualizing the Cell computing, it is the expectation where the execution time which software Cell the steering wheel is done becomes necessary for software layer. But, you call to Cell OS of present condition, that this is not mounted. The execution time for software Cell, when actualizing Cell computing to, is seen that it means to be mounted on OS.

Of course, in case of PS3 therefore with saying unlike PC, the upgrade of OS probably will not have necessity. At least in case of game title, most OS modules are the expectation which has been recorded on optical disk side. When Cell computing corresponding game title and the like appears, it is seen that also Cell OS which, is included in that disk has become software Cell correspondence.

So, OS of Linux and the like on the hard disk how becoming? Concerning this, it is not understood for the present, but it probably is to mean to expand the module of software Cell correspondence in a some way. From first it places the execution time itself where by the way, one for PS3 Linux the steering wheel does SPE.

Why, here, the building joy person being present? The idea of Sun is plugged, "The Network is the Computer" very network is a vision of the computer. From among those, also Java which becomes the base where safe decentralization of object on ヘテロジニアスネットワーク is actualized was born. The conception of Cell, if it tries saying, with hardware assist conversion of the approach of Java, has shared basic vision.
 
That is the hardest interview that I have read from Sony yet.

A few things stuck out to me and I can't complety figure it out.

First PS3 is started in any case. If PS3 therefore (hardware) the reason which entirely becomes ready, try Cell OS to correspond (to software Cell). So when it does, at a certain point in time, the Cell computing plural PS3 and Cell which are connected to network to communicate mutually actualizes. Therefore as for Cell computing, vision of our bases, be sure to actualize.

In addition, we would like to maintain secure state accurately at hardware level the various data and the program when flying about, on network as a module. Cell has that with the hardware.


In case of Microsoft, because (also security) becomes the software solution, be sure to be torn with the software. The largest merit of Cell unique, Cell mono it being, can move the data and the program in secure state. If anything building joy (Bill Joy, Chief Scientist of the origin Sun Microsystems and the joint founder) it is close to the conception of former times. Also the building joy person had been excited enormously (with Cell)

When the patent which is seen as the relation of Cell of SCEI is read, with Cell, what it has been about to define the object format "software Cell" in order to do distributed processing conversion is found. Software Cell, can house, various information such as address and necessary computing resource of the delivery original Cell processor with respect to network in the header and the like. By the fact that the format of object is stipulated, it will try to be able to actualize real time distributed processing smoothly, is the concept of Cell. As for by the way, exchanging with software Cell SPE (Synergistic Processor Element) just the program is supposed.

PS3 has been related closely with Cell computing conception. Cell computing that when you say, what between the Cell processor with respect to network, communicating with Pia two Pia, does distributed processing in real time. When Cell computing actualizes, not only PS3 of the single unit, using also the performance of other Cell with respect to network, from it reaches the point where it can execute also the big software of scale. If Cell computing is done on Internet, theoretically, it means that also the computing power which exceeds the terrestrial simulator largely enters into the hand.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Reeves took a shot at Microsoft's ambitious early targets too, saying: "First mover advantage is there if you have momentum, but not really if you're standing still."

I guess he hasn't looked at software sales in the last 2 years because XBOX has been dong nothing but gaining momentum.

In the US, they went from 23% market share in 2003, to 34% in 2004....that's a pretty big jump in 12 months.
 
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