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Not sure if it came from the demo or not, however it looks identical to the game Jin. Look at the fullscreen picture above.
There really is just no difference, just that the one I used is just Jin on the screen.
If you can find a tekken 1/2 Jin with a close up I'll add it, it's so hard finding screenshots for those old psone games.
There really is just no difference, just that the one I used is just Jin on the screen.
If you can find a tekken 1/2 Jin with a close up I'll add it, it's so hard finding screenshots for those old psone games.
IMO Tekken TAG occasionally does look better than Tekken 4.
The larger environments in 4 seem to have taken some quality off the characters.
Tekken TAG (not the jaggy japanese version) is still one of the better looking PS2 games, imo, and it was a launch game!
The larger environments in 4 seem to have taken some quality off the characters.
Tekken TAG (not the jaggy japanese version) is still one of the better looking PS2 games, imo, and it was a launch game!
yeah, tekken Tag does look better AT TIMES than Tekken 4. the fact that the backgrounds are static helps. Although some backgrounds in Tekken4 seen in progressive scan, especially the ones in the Mall with the water, are WAY beyond anything seen on a PS2 fighter. (still havent played SC2, mind u) 
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A prefered instance for deploying Cell processors is 4 data * 8 APU * 4 PE. As a result, 512 32bit floating point arithmetic and 512 32bit integer arithmetic per clock are processed simultaneously. In short word the number of clock on CELL is 1 Tera FLOPS.
Specification is following;
-32 sub processors on one chip
-256 processing units
-max 1024 32bit data calculation
-1 Tera FLOPS power
-the number of transistors is over 1B
-outer memory is "Yellowstone" DRAM by Rambus
-chip-interconnect technology will be "Redwood" by Rambus
-"Emotion Engine", the core chipset of PS2, is integrated in one chip with "Graphics Synthesizer".
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A prefered instance for deploying Cell processors is 4 data * 8 APU * 4 PE. As a result, 512 32bit floating point arithmetic and 512 32bit integer arithmetic per clock are processed simultaneously. In short word the number of clock on CELL is 1 Tera FLOPS.
Specification is following;
-32 sub processors on one chip
-256 processing units
-max 1024 32bit data calculation
-1 Tera FLOPS power
-the number of transistors is over 1B
-outer memory is "Yellowstone" DRAM by Rambus
-chip-interconnect technology will be "Redwood" by Rambus
-"Emotion Engine", the core chipset of PS2, is integrated in one chip with "Graphics Synthesizer".
qwerty2000
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we already saw that diagram and also i hope that block diagram of the ps3 isnt true it looks like a ps2 diagram picture
qwerty2000
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like i did for my estinomations for the gamecube 2 i am going to do it for the ps3
-polygon count-
PS1: 360,000 thousand
PS2: 20 million
PS3:5-10 billion (real Time)?
-memory-
PS1: 2 Mb
PS2: 32 MB
GC2: 1024MB?
-main memory bandwidth-
PS1: 132 mb/sec
PS2: 3.2 gb/sec
PS3: 40-60 GB/sec?
-Floating Point Performance-
PS1: 30 MIPS (CPU) + 80MIPS GPU)
PS2 :6.6 GFLOPs total Emotion Engine
PS3: 1-5 TFLOPs total (CPU + GPU)
-Texturing-
PS1: 1 mb vram
PS2: 4 mb vram
PS3: 128-256 vram external
-Sound Memory-
PS1: 512 KB
PS2: 2 mb
PS3: 32 MB??
-polygon count-
PS1: 360,000 thousand
PS2: 20 million
PS3:5-10 billion (real Time)?
-memory-
PS1: 2 Mb
PS2: 32 MB
GC2: 1024MB?
-main memory bandwidth-
PS1: 132 mb/sec
PS2: 3.2 gb/sec
PS3: 40-60 GB/sec?
-Floating Point Performance-
PS1: 30 MIPS (CPU) + 80MIPS GPU)
PS2 :6.6 GFLOPs total Emotion Engine
PS3: 1-5 TFLOPs total (CPU + GPU)
-Texturing-
PS1: 1 mb vram
PS2: 4 mb vram
PS3: 128-256 vram external
-Sound Memory-
PS1: 512 KB
PS2: 2 mb
PS3: 32 MB??
OK hang on. HDTV resolution is 1080x720, thats 777600 pixels. At 60fps thats 46.656 million pixels per second. At 5 billion pps you're displaying over 100 polygons per pixel. At 10 billion pps you're displaying over 200 polygons per pixel. Even with the best anti-aliasing that much detail is just not visible.
qwerty2000
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i think my comparioons are pretty accrate dont you think so
Even at 1920 X 1080 that is still only 2,073,600 pixels(124,416,000/sec @60 fps). That would mean that you could fit over 40 polygons in one pixel @ 5 billion polygons/sec and over 80 @ 10 billion polygon/sec.
I don't know much about how 3d graphics work, but wouldn't anything over 124.4 million polygons/sec be overkill with today's HDTV standard?
I don't know much about how 3d graphics work, but wouldn't anything over 124.4 million polygons/sec be overkill with today's HDTV standard?
Tsmit42 said:
Poly throughput is nice and all, but you need memory to store all the vertices, as well as a fat bus to send them all. Nothing in 3d graphics is that efficient
Perfect example -> XB and PS2 only ever using at most a third or so of their peak polygon processing rate.
No, just no. I would say around 15B under max conditions like ps2's 66M. We may see 1B in game eventually though.
1024megs of yellowstone RDram is gonna cost too much, I expect ps3 to have 384-512 and I'm guessing 512.
I don't know the specifics of yellowstone dram so I cannot comment on this.
Sounds right, I expect 1.256TFLOPS myself.
I'm only expecting 64mb of eDRAM on the rasterizer with texture compression, MAYBE 128
32mb sound memory is a bit much
I expect 8-16MB.
qwerty2000
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if it's 15b i'll be seeing 2-4b in real time then that sounds right
megadrive0088
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there are things wrong about these figures. my comments are added in bold
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