Obesity nearly as deadly as tobacco in United States
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ChryZ said:If you wanna gain weight, just eat 2-3 pieces of cheese-cake in addition to your normal diet .... that will help
Trust me, i eat enough fatty food, although i must say i do try to keep it balanced... I can't eat cheescakes though, i'm allergic to milk and dairy products...
sytaylor said:london-boy said:
Similar curse mate
6'1 and stuck at 11 stone most of the time... I started running again a couple of months ago and it was a total disaster, so now i just do rowing for 5-10 mins then straight to heavy weights...
I just wondering if the following movie was already discussed here.
http://www.supersizeme.com/
As epicstruggle posted the result of this diet was horrible.
after only 30 days on the "Mac Donalds diet" he had the following symptoms (according to this german webpage):
- 12 Kilos more weight
- already after a few days headaches, vomiting of the burgers, depressions and a large reduction in sexual appetite.
- after the month his liver readings were abnormal (the doctor was really shocked)
- the cholesterol - level went from 165 to 230
So the typical american life style (=fast food) seems to be really deathly even within a really short time period.
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Just for fun, the "Super Size Me" Movie poster (I think not the real one, but tasty nontheless ) :
http://www.supersizeme.com/images/main_window/sections/drivethru/poster/miniposter.jpg
http://www.supersizeme.com/
As epicstruggle posted the result of this diet was horrible.
after only 30 days on the "Mac Donalds diet" he had the following symptoms (according to this german webpage):
- 12 Kilos more weight
- already after a few days headaches, vomiting of the burgers, depressions and a large reduction in sexual appetite.
- after the month his liver readings were abnormal (the doctor was really shocked)
- the cholesterol - level went from 165 to 230
So the typical american life style (=fast food) seems to be really deathly even within a really short time period.
[edit]
Just for fun, the "Super Size Me" Movie poster (I think not the real one, but tasty nontheless ) :
http://www.supersizeme.com/images/main_window/sections/drivethru/poster/miniposter.jpg
Europeans have a varied diet that is very rich in carbs and fat but have nowhere near the obesity prob we have. Why? They eat about 30% less of everything that we do on a daily basis. Eat what you want (but varied) just eat less... But dont go hungry. Remember evolution gave our bodies a great ability to store fat and when we feel hungry the body panics and the next meals you eat itll absorb as much as it can as it thinks its starving...
So eat less but eat regularly to avoid feeling hungry.
So eat less but eat regularly to avoid feeling hungry.
I've never been to the States myself, but everyone I know who has visited can't quite believe the size of the portions served there!
On the other hand, they also couldn't believe what some Americans ate for their breakfast i.e. Steak, Pancakes and Ice Cream with Syrup etc etc.
Sounds like a ringing endorsement of the 'liquid lunch' to me!
On the other hand, they also couldn't believe what some Americans ate for their breakfast i.e. Steak, Pancakes and Ice Cream with Syrup etc etc.
ChryZ said:
Sounds like a ringing endorsement of the 'liquid lunch' to me!
Mariner said:I've never been to the States myself, but everyone I know who has visited can't quite believe the size of the portions served there!
On the other hand, they also couldn't believe what some Americans ate for their breakfast i.e. Steak, Pancakes and Ice Cream with Syrup etc etc.
ChryZ said:
Sounds like a ringing endorsement of the 'liquid lunch' to me!
I've been about 5 times, the portions are huge for breakfast thats for sure. For me every morning i usually have cereal, then a bananna at around 9:30.. but bagels + cream cheese, pancakes etc.. Good alternative to the full english when visiting but i couldn't live that way.
Us brits tend to live of sarnies and pasties at work. By that i mean small packaged efforts. American food puts that to shame, but at the same time is probably far worse for you. Personally I love the choice in US deli's but I can see how choice would easily become a series of bad habbits.
Liquid lunches rule
Especially when your work has a wireless LAN that works within an 800m radius of the building meaning you can use your laptop from the pub... If only they'd give us access to it already! pax said:
That's right, you can actually increase your metabolism by eating smaller meals more often. By eating big meals less often in comparison your body wants to store the fat just in case. By eating smaller meals less often you fool your metabolism into thinking "oh well there will be more stuff soon". Surely that is simplified but I think it conveys the idea.
Sabastian said:
Wouldn't it just work by being aware that "there will be more anyway"?... If you know what i mean...
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I personally recommend gradually phasing into a light CR(aka healthiest possible) diet, with supplementation, that is to say to limit what one's supposed to consume by 10-25% approx.
I consume a wide variety of foods, lots of berries, broccoli, plums, vegetables, fruits, soy, spinach, meats, breads(whole-grain- aka best), etc... but I limit my daily consumption to about approx 1800cal. I take multi-vitamins, and pharmaceutical grade supplements(grape-extract, tea, fish oil, etc.).
I also walk daily about 30-60min, and do some sit-ups, and push-ups every one or two days.
I consume a wide variety of foods, lots of berries, broccoli, plums, vegetables, fruits, soy, spinach, meats, breads(whole-grain- aka best), etc... but I limit my daily consumption to about approx 1800cal. I take multi-vitamins, and pharmaceutical grade supplements(grape-extract, tea, fish oil, etc.).
I also walk daily about 30-60min, and do some sit-ups, and push-ups every one or two days.
london-boy said:
No, that's not how it works. Your body regulates its metabolism based on consumption levels. No amount of "awareness" will effect it. You can however fool it and that is what I am trying to convey. Some people of course have a genetic predisposition for a higher metabolism and others a lower one. In the case of the people with lower metabolisms it would take considerably more effort to fool their bodies into "letting go" so to speak.
As a side note I can't agree more with the old adage "everything in moderation" mentality. The reason so many dieters fail to maintain the weight levels they manage is because they deprive themselves of things they like. Of course once they manage to loose a bit of weight the green light comes on were they feel that they can treat themselves more often then not it turns into an overindulgence. There is allot to be said for "everything in moderation".
Yep. I eat anything and everything I want, in moderation. If I have a donut during lunch, I don't eat dessert during dinner. One such dessert can pack around 300-500 calories, 200 of which come from fat. In a daily diet that should comprise about 2000-2500 calories for a desk job, that's pretty hefty, especially considering breakfast is usually around 300 calories, lunch around 600, and dinner around 1200. At least, that's my caloric breakdown. My weight is steady at 185-192lbs, depending on the day, hehe. And I don't even work out.
Natoma said:
Liar. What about Milano cookies?
If I have a donut during lunch, I don't eat dessert during dinner. One such dessert can pack around 300-500 calories, 200 of which come from fat. In a daily diet that should comprise about 2000-2500 calories for a desk job, that's pretty hefty, especially considering breakfast is usually around 300 calories, lunch around 600, and dinner around 1200. At least, that's my caloric breakdown. My weight is steady at 185-192lbs, depending on the day, hehe. And I don't even work out.
how tall are you and what is your build?
We LOVE milano cookies. Eddie got me hooked on them. I had never had them before I met him. Of course, Milano's pack about 150 calories for two cookies, which is far less than a single chocolate covered donut that I love to eat. When we have milanos, I generally eat two for lunch and two for dinner, and voila, I've met my caloric requirement. I don't even think much about it anymore. I've been doing this for years now. Just comes second nature these days.
I'm 6ft tall, medium build. If you want to see pictures, go here: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10640
One is on the 1st page, and links are at the bottom of the second.
I'm 6ft tall, medium build. If you want to see pictures, go here: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10640
One is on the 1st page, and links are at the bottom of the second.
lay off junk food plus a little exercise.
I was laid up with nerve damage in my knee for about 6 months. Wore an ACL brace to work just to be able to even try to work. Got home, plopped my leg up and iced/heated my knee to reduce swelling and pain.
Ate normally, didnt gain but 5 pounds due to lack of exercise.
Im one of those people who naturally are just big. I weighed 190 when I played football in HighSchool and wore a 30" waist (could wear 28") and am only ~5'8".
Most Ive ever weighed was 250 right after my first go round with knee issues (and having just got married, domestication does that to you). Lost 30 pounds in about 3 months simply riding an elliptical machine 5 times a week.
I work in a building that has hallways over 1/4 mile long, so I get some exercise at work naturally. I can walk 30 miles in a day without being worn out.
There is a guy who weighs almost 300 pounds (call him fat, if you want) but he regually competes in Tri-Athlons.
http://www.beezodogsplace.com/Pages/Articles/FitandFat/FitandFat.html
skinny people can be out of shape as much as overweight people can be. I also know lots of people who are about the right build for themselves yet cant do any extended exercise.
I was laid up with nerve damage in my knee for about 6 months. Wore an ACL brace to work just to be able to even try to work. Got home, plopped my leg up and iced/heated my knee to reduce swelling and pain.
Ate normally, didnt gain but 5 pounds due to lack of exercise.
Im one of those people who naturally are just big. I weighed 190 when I played football in HighSchool and wore a 30" waist (could wear 28") and am only ~5'8".
Most Ive ever weighed was 250 right after my first go round with knee issues (and having just got married, domestication does that to you). Lost 30 pounds in about 3 months simply riding an elliptical machine 5 times a week.
I work in a building that has hallways over 1/4 mile long, so I get some exercise at work naturally. I can walk 30 miles in a day without being worn out.
There is a guy who weighs almost 300 pounds (call him fat, if you want) but he regually competes in Tri-Athlons.
http://www.beezodogsplace.com/Pages/Articles/FitandFat/FitandFat.html
skinny people can be out of shape as much as overweight people can be. I also know lots of people who are about the right build for themselves yet cant do any extended exercise.
I'd hate to see what he eats to maintain that weight with the amount of exercise he performs each week.
There is a body builder who eats what he wants and is still considered a top contender in events:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/030504/spl_14997550.shtml
he finished third in the Arnold Classic:
http://www.arnoldclassic.com/2004_ac.asp
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/030504/spl_14997550.shtml
he finished third in the Arnold Classic:
http://www.arnoldclassic.com/2004_ac.asp
