Obesity nearly as deadly as tobacco in United States

[Natoma]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4486906/

Maybe McDonalds taking super size away is a good thing. Unless of course those that overeat anyway decide to purchase a second meal to get that little extra fix. Hmmmmm... Ingenious business plan I'd say.

 

[Paul]

Your fat your fault(Unless it's a medical condition). If someone wants to lose weight they'll love it, too bad many are too lazy or don't care, just look at these low carb dieters. Atkins diet in the long term is horrible for the body.

A word of advice to those looking to lose weight, ditch the refined carbs(pasta's, rice, white flour based foods), sugars(think cakes, candies), drink a ton of water and excersise on a bike 2 times a week for around 25 minutes of medium intensity and then you'll love weight, safetly.

 

[John Reynolds]

I'd recommend 4-5x week for 30 minutes, preferably in the mornings to raise your metabolism for the day (helps with those desk jobs).

 

[Paul]

More is better of course, it depends on how much weight you need to lose/your goals.

If you are 300+ pounds, I would not try to lose a ton of weight at once, you will have alot of loose skin afterwards.

 

[DemoCoder]

The only way to lose weight is to ensure that calories in < calories out, period. These carb diets are bunk. There was a study published three weeks ago on *high carb vegetable diets* where people lost weight, and with no exercise. I've tried it, and friends have tried them (atkins, zone, south beach) They only work because as soon as you start watching your intake of food, you eat better. The other effect is that they are *boring* and after you've eaten steak, eggs, cheese, and nuts on a consistent basis, you'll get sick of them and stop gorging.

Asians eat tonnes of refined white rice, and are some of the skinniest people in the world *including those in well-to-do asian cities* in comparison.

Calories In - Calories Out < 0 implies weight loss. Of course, you should strive to eat a balanced diet, but telling people to eat no refined carbs or sugars is also bogus. Everything in moderation.

 

[Paul]

but telling people to eat no refined carbs or sugars is also bogus. Everything in moderation.

It's not bogus, I don't mean get rid of carbs completely by ditch, just don't eat the refined processed shit that most obese people eat.

Ditch the white rice and go for brown, ditch the white bread and go for wheat.

If your looking to lose weight you shouldn't be taking in a gigantic amount of carbs, but I'm not saying you should kill them off either

 

[DemoCoder]

Caloric intake is what matters, plain and simple. You can eat as many refined carbs and sugars as you want as long as you restrict the calories. Now, unless you want to talk about diabetes and glycemic index, but that's a different issue from weight less. Dozens of studies have now been done on these diets, and the results are in: a low carb diet is no better at sustainable weight loss than a high carb diet. The Ornish diet, which is a low fat vegetarian diet (which does not "ditch" white rice) works just as well.

The key issue is to watch your calories, period. I feel sorry for the people who keep getting suckered into the diet of the week.

And of course, there is contrarian evidence: Low fat, High Carb, No Exercise Diet = Weight Loss

 

[epicstruggle]

This is slightly off-topic. But why do people feel that McD's lawsuits are bogus, while suing tobacco companies is ok? Seems to me that the two operate in quite a similar maner, from marketing to content, they both are bad, but popular.

late,
epic

 

[rabidrabbit]

Mc Donald's meals are actually quite healthy. They have meat, vegetables, and bread... everything that a balanced meal should have. They are not even too greasy.

I don't think you could get fat even if you eat a hamburger meal every day.

It's more what you eat in between MD's that make you fat, as MD meals do leave you hungry

 

[epicstruggle]

Mc Donald's meals are actually quite healthy. They have meat, vegetables, and bread... everything that a balanced meal should have. They are not even too greasy.

I don't think you could get fat even if you eat a hamburger meal every day.

It's more what you eat in between MD's that make you fat, as MD meals do leave you hungry

this claim is easily shot down. Someone actually made a film about eating at McD's for a month.

A US filmmaker was so intrigued by McDonald's claim its food was nutritious that he ate all his meals at the fast-food giant for a month.

The result? Eleven extra kilos, higher cholesterol and an award-winning documentary of his fast-food journey, Super Size Me: A Film of Epic Portions.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/05/1078378944667.html
later,
epic

 

[rabidrabbit]

I bet he also ate those ice creams, apple pies etc...
Was it controlled that he didn't eat something at home too?
Edit: Oh, he ate them for breakfast, lunch and dinner
no sane person eats same food three times a day, every day.
Who even eats three full meals a day?

 

[epicstruggle]

I bet he also ate those ice creams, apple pies etc...
Was it controlled that he didn't eat something at home too?
Edit: Oh, he ate them for breakfast, lunch and dinner
no sane person eats same food three times a day, every day.
Who even eats three full meals a day?

Lots of people do. I had a friend who worked for taco bell, some people ate the same thing for years, and multiple times a day at that.

later,
epic

 

[Simon F]

Obesity nearly as deadly as tobacco in United States

I would have thought obesity would be far more deadly than tobacco. Let's face it, a cigarette falling on you is going to do far less damage than .....

 

[Mariner]

Bloody hell! How on earth could it be possible to put on 24 pounds in just one month? Surely he'd have to be eating dozens of burgers a day to reach that kind of weight! :?

 

[sytaylor]

I tend to find the people who want to diet and are "on diets" are like smokers trying to quit they "cut down" on bad foods for a little while, but before long are back to the terrible habbits they were doing before. Constant little sins that "don't count" sneak in everywhere. Food is fuel, not the highlight of the day and too many people treat it as the latter not the former.

Food can and should be enjoyed on occasion[/i]

 

[epicstruggle]

I tend to find the people who want to diet and are "on diets" are like smokers trying to quit they "cut down" on bad foods for a little while, but before long are back to the terrible habbits they were doing before. Constant little sins that "don't count" sneak in everywhere. Food is fuel, not the highlight of the day and too many people treat it as the latter not the former.

Food can and should be enjoyed on occasion[/i]

"Do you live to eat, or eat to live?"

later,
epic

 

[ChryZ]

If you want to lose weight and keep slim:

- eat very little fatty food (fries, chocolate, etc), don't ditch fat completely, the body needs certain amounts in order to work: eat fish, use olive-oil for salad

- eat rice (no fat, very rich energy source, rice's carbohydrate molecule strings are complex/long: result you are not getting hungry that easiely)

- eat a lot fruit and vegetables

- don't drink alcohol AND eat, alcohol = negative impact on your metabolism

- don't eat after 8:00-10:00pm, in that time-frame the metabolism slows down

- don't eat sweet and fatty at the same time, the body will use the sugar and shove the fat into the "storage", chocolate is the best example for this

- exercise regularly

 

[London Geezer]

Here's one that needs to go to the gym to put on weight... I just can't put on weight. And i eat ANYTHING all day long. The only way for me to put on weight is to go to the gym and bulk up, which is good cause i also get a nice body out of it, but it's just a pain... I even tried eating supersize McDonalds menus everyday for a week, didn't work (it felt good tho!)

 

[sytaylor]

lol, weight gain is about pushing your muscles into more resistance or doing more reps than they are used to.. ppl get into routines at the gym, when you should be pushing yourself to either do more of the same or move up a weight..

also there is a huge world of suppliments out there that can help, although i'd be tempted to do as much as you can naturally, things liek whey protien help your muslces rebuild after excercise.

 

[London Geezer]

lol, weight gain is about pushing your muscles into more resistance or doing more reps than they are used to.. ppl get into routines at the gym, when you should be pushing yourself to either do more of the same or move up a weight..

also there is a huge world of suppliments out there that can help, although i'd be tempted to do as much as you can naturally, things liek whey protien help your muslces rebuild after excercise.

Yeah that's what i'm doing... go figure... Scrapped aerobic training a long time ago (apart from 5 mins warmup of course). I mean i just can't get over the 71Kg limit without working hard in the gym and taking supplements... I'm now 73Kg. Maximum i've ever been was around 76Kg And i'm quite tall...