NVIDIA shows signs ... [2008 - 2017]

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  1. Jawed

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    I strongly expect not.

    Yep. And why not?

    I'm not saying NVidia did this, merely that with the unknown nature of the contracts, the unknown failure rates and the unknown solutions offered by NVidia, we can merely guess as to whether there'll be any more charges, or lawsuits etc. and now we're just waiting to see what happens this financial quarter.

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  2. Geo

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    Well, this is at least testable. . .the charge will go up or not in the next quarter. I'd keep a close eye on other 8600-only OEMs like Lenovo as well to see if they go there as well. Not a happy thot for me with my T61p (which at least has an extended warranty).
     
  3. XMAN26

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    Nvidia Mobil GPU issues

    Having just worked on one of these affected models, HP lappy with a 8600m GT, the fix is 2 fold.

    1. A new BIOS has been released by most venders as most of us here is and has been well aware of.
    2. The BIOS fix is actually 2 fixes in one. It lowers the thermal threshold for the fans max spin rating so it will kick in high sooner and it also increases the min speed at which the fan spins when in operation.

    Had these 2 things been in place from the get go across the board for all venders, the likely hood of this ever even happening I would put at slim to none as thermal concerns would have been met to begin with.
     
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    Except that would have been abnormal behaviour from the notebook vendors. These things are qualified to the tolerances that are told by the compent IHV's. The only things that are running out of spec here are NVIDIA's GPU's.
     
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    Er, OK, well, ahem, it seems that $192M was prolly not enough then.

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  7. Geo

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    Uh, if the IGPs from years ago are effected, wouldn't it be possible for many of nVidia's chips since then to be effected by this?
     
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    From a vendor's pov, that's one of the problems with this kind of situation --your parts start getting put under the microscope by your customers retroactively to see if they have a basis to demand compensation for them as well. It gets to be "piling on" that wouldn't have happened otherwise, most likely.
     
  10. Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.

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    Well that's only right if it's the case that Nvidia's been selling faulty parts, either knowingly or not to customers in the past. It's a big hit on everyone's reputation, and I wonder how many repairs/replacements people like HP or their customers paid for on failed hardware before Nvidia chips were pinpointed as the problem?

    It's a screw-up of epic proportions, and everyone's going to be looking to blame the company at fault - and that's Nvidia.
     
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    Apple: G92 Desktops defective.

    And what's extra nice:

    So Nvidia know they have a load of faulty chips in inventory, but they are going to sell them to customers anyway, and just hope they don't break until the warranty is over. :evil:
     
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    did that mean anything from last time too when it came to the desktop cards?



    Follow up by Mike Hara to the Inq btw, and where the hell does Apple talk about the g92, Charlie, Charlie, gotta learn how to read at times.
     
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    Well, a small ray of sunshine at least:

    http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2008/10/13/daily14.html?ana=from_rss

     
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    Hmm?

     
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    problem is the M86 model number is old, it was used for G4 Power Mac's for desktops and for notebooks it was the G3 Ibook, unless he is talking about internal code names......

    and still thats the same type of warning they gave out to other companies too where the chips weren't affected, just a precautionary messure.

    Apple has no 9800 GTX's nor gt1xx's. The only one they have is the 8800 gt, so he is talking about the Mac Pro's.
     
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    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/230097/has-nvidia-problem-hit-hp-desktops.html

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    This made me laugh

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/10/14/5-star-stocks-poised-to-pop-nvidia.aspx

    "Over on CAPS, 605 of the 637 All-Star members who have rated NVIDIA -- some 95% -- believe the stock will outperform the S&P 500 going forward. These All-Star bulls include dcstrade and papasilas, both of whom are ranked in the top 10% of our community"

    "Recent plunge due to financial panic makes this more attractive. This is where my risk-taking side seems to be winning over my conservative side"

    I get the feeling they do not really know what is going on with nvidia. OK AMD is not doing so well but they will exist for a time yet and in the meantime are making hay with their new gpu's whilst nvidia seems to be making key rings with its.
     
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    Your laptop is defective because it will break. You should never buy a laptop again as they will all break. That is black and white and foolish.
     
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    I believe that this new deal with Apple, where they'll supply chipsets/IGP's to the entire notebook line -Macbook, Macbook Air, Macbook Pro-, plus a midrange discrete mobile GPU on this last one, is a very agressive one, and might just create a halo effect for MCP79 on Windows desktop motherboards and notebooks too.
    We can't just discount the importance of it all in Nvidia's bottom-line later on.
     
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    But I thought Nvidia was getting out of the chipset business - Charlie and "analysts" said so so it must be true. Now Apple's entire line is using Nvidia chipsets. One of these two does not make sense.
     
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