Lincoln Bauman
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BoardBonobo said:
Where did you find this stuff?
Maybe these are AA modes that will make it into NV30? That would be quite the assortment.
Lincoln
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Where did you find this stuff?
Maybe these are AA modes that will make it into NV30? That would be quite the assortment.
Lincoln
Doomtrooper
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martrox said:
Predictable...
Det4 Review - 9/02/02 12:35 pm - By: Typedef Enum - Source: 3DChipset
HotHardware does the best job of evaluating the new Det. 4 drivers.
nVidia has stated that Pixel Shaders will see the biggest jump, but you cannot overlook the other improvements, namely D3D A.F. options, general A.F. optimizations, and a much better panel layout.
Somehow Type and Hothardware forgot to list the huge bug list i.e Quake 3 washed out same for RTCW and Dark, MotoGP issues, Anisotropic settings fubarred especially 8X..., flashing textures in 3Dmark...what did this site just do, they just told everyone this is a great driver and how many people are now going to install it and have issues..
I.e.. 8X ??
http://www.3dgpu.com/misc_images/ss28x.jpg
No improvement with games with Pixel Shader equipped games.. Comanche 4 and actually lost frames in another stressing benchmark with the Codecult Creature demo.
http://www.pc-extreme.com/artikel/detonator-test/detonator4041/
Good to see Matt Burris posting like a internet journalist should..the real results...thanks for saving people some trouble.
Doomtrooper said:
Well, considering some of these problems only are experienced by some people the correct thing to say would be "some people are reporting problems". You make it sound like thise bugs happen to every user. Personally I have no problems in Q3A, RTCW and no flashing textures. 8X is fucked, yes. All other anisotropic levels are fine. You say "especially 8X" that would be a mistake I guess. A typo.
I guess your not going to let this one go
I have not heart you complain about R300 not being able to use FSAA in 16-bit. Or not doing AA on alpha-textures. Not THERE is a driverbug And they don't even plan to fix it (the 16b thing) HAHA.Doomtrooper
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Galilee said:Doomtrooper said:
Well, considering some of these problems only are experienced by some people the correct thing to say would be "some people are reporting problems". You make it sound like thise bugs happen to every user. Personally I have no problems in Q3A, RTCW and no flashing textures. 8X is fucked, yes. All other anisotropic levels are fine. You say "especially 8X" that would be a mistake I guess. A typo.
I guess your not going to let this one go
The average Joe Schmoe counts on these sites to post the truth, there is a bug list on these drivers as long as a my credit card bill.
Not one mention of these is my complaint, or the fact 8X is toast, or that Pixel Shader games like Comanche 4 and Codecult lost frames..
Is a load of BS, 3Dmark Nature got a boost or is every site besides this one misleading the public. ..bahhh
martrox said:Galilee, just when was the last time YOU played anything in 16 bit.....maybe when you had that last Voodoo 3 card?
Well it's just funny because alpha-textures is evey ATI fan's biggest complain about FSAA on GF 3/4.
Galilee said:martrox said:Galilee, just when was the last time YOU played anything in 16 bit.....maybe when you had that last Voodoo 3 card?
Well it's just funny because alpha-textures is evey ATI fan's biggest complain about FSAA on GF 3/4.
Why do you have to try and turn everything into company preference?
Alpha textures should be, and ARE, one of the biggest problems with MS. That and a lack of texture AA.
Dear god, you people who cry "f@boy" are like the boy who cried wolf.
Pretty soon no one will care.
EDIT:
As for 16bit, its gone. No reason to use it.
As for Alpha Texture AA, i thought that it did work on R300, BUT that it requires the use of a a special extension, IIRC.
Richthofen
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doomtrooper why don't you just go over to the rage3d forum and start whining over there?
There should be enough people who appreciate your comments
The bugs you are reporting do not effect all people.
I don't have these kind of bugs.
The only bug i can see here is that problem with the AF slider but well i still can set the af level in the registry or with tools.
This bug will be fixed in the final release - that's it.
you should work for the ATI PR department maybe then the company will earn at least some money and be a little more successfull in that matter
There should be enough people who appreciate your comments
The bugs you are reporting do not effect all people.
I don't have these kind of bugs.
The only bug i can see here is that problem with the AF slider but well i still can set the af level in the registry or with tools.
This bug will be fixed in the final release - that's it.
you should work for the ATI PR department maybe then the company will earn at least some money and be a little more successfull in that matter
Doomtrooper
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Richthofen said:doomtrooper why don't you just go over to the rage3d forum and start whining over there?
There should be enough people who appreciate your comments
The bugs you are reporting do not effect all people.
I don't have these kind of bugs.
The only bug i can see here is that problem with the AF slider but well i still can set the af level in the registry or with tools.
This bug will be fixed in the final release - that's it.
you should work for the ATI PR department maybe then the company will earn at least some money and be a little more successfull in that matter
This isn't a Nvidia fan site..if you don't like to see the truth then head over there.
This thread alone has many examples of bugs, the 8X shot showing what anisotropic is doing is worth enough to mention, plus 3DGPU and Nvnews threads are filled with issues..including lower IQ..
As usual I guess you are just a exception to the rule, or you are Mr. Mcgoo.
So if you are going to deny the results of alot of review sites lets see YOUR big peformance increases in Pixel Shader games (since Nvidia stated thats what they would do).. so we can tell everyone else what they are doing wrong.
http://www.3dchips.net/main/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3223
The Aquamark test seems to show a definate improvement in the benchies done by HotHardware. And doesn't that game rely heavily on shaders?
Does maximum detail include Ansio and FSAA? Only four fps behind the 9700 at 1600x1200.
Does maximum detail include Ansio and FSAA? Only four fps behind the 9700 at 1600x1200.
Doomtrooper
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Like the link above states, unless texture sharpening and Anisotropic 1 is checked the IQ is lower, yet increased frames...
In that test unless these were checked throw that benchmarks out the window as the IQ is no where close...I also believe that is just texture detail and not FSAA and AS filtering.
The summary of that review translated..
http://babelfish.altavista.com/urlt...file=article&sid=3223&lp=de_en&tt=url
In that test unless these were checked throw that benchmarks out the window as the IQ is no where close...I also believe that is just texture detail and not FSAA and AS filtering.
The summary of that review translated..
http://babelfish.altavista.com/urlt...file=article&sid=3223&lp=de_en&tt=url
Look, people, as I have stated before, I have no alegence to any videocard manufacturer. In fact, I haven't owned a ATI card sense a 4 meg Rage2! I do own, at the moment, 8 nVidia cards - 2 TI4600's, 2 GF3's, 2 GF2 200ti's, a GTS and a M64 16 meg tnt. My whole objection here is that nVidia is misrepresenting these drivers to the public, and that it is being perpetuated by almost all of the major sites. This is more than a percieved bias. While many certainly can understand that Beyond3D may be "percieved" as having bias(even though there is none, I feel), there is absolutely no doubt than the major sites ARE biased, this whole fiasco being proof of such. It would be a welcome change to see some honesty from these sites.
I own nVidia cards because they have been the best product availible. nVidia should be proud to just let them stand on their own qualities, not propigate this kind of crap. And, if ATI (or anyone else) should come out with a better product, then let nVidia redouble their efforts to make an even better card. And, all of us consumers should applaud anyone that can produce a better product, no matter who makes it. Fanaticism is just plain stupid, on every concievable level - unless you are the manufacturer
Anyone that looks at these drivers in an objective way KNOWS they have major problems. They certainly are not what nVidia has said they are.
I own nVidia cards because they have been the best product availible. nVidia should be proud to just let them stand on their own qualities, not propigate this kind of crap. And, if ATI (or anyone else) should come out with a better product, then let nVidia redouble their efforts to make an even better card. And, all of us consumers should applaud anyone that can produce a better product, no matter who makes it. Fanaticism is just plain stupid, on every concievable level - unless you are the manufacturer
Anyone that looks at these drivers in an objective way KNOWS they have major problems. They certainly are not what nVidia has said they are.
I wish I were a diamond ring upon nVidias hand.
Then everytime they wiped their arse,
I'd see the promised land
I thank you
Then everytime they wiped their arse,
I'd see the promised land
I thank you
Matt Burris
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BoardBonobo said:I wish I were a diamond ring upon nVidias hand.
Then everytime they wiped their arse,
I'd see the promised land
I thank you
LOL, too funny.
my thread on the advantage of the gf3 witrh the new detonator driver have been locked. why?? is it offensive or even sensitive when ppl are freely comparing performance gain with a gf 4 ti??
the reason i asked was to seek info.. its in no way to start a flame war. i just wanted the info. pls
the reason i asked was to seek info.. its in no way to start a flame war. i just wanted the info. pls
There's 22 pages of info right here. Start looking.
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