It's what happens by default, if you don't apply a LOD bias or explicit LOD selection in the shader. The GPU uses mip levels appropriate for the target resolution of the current render pass, i.e. in case of DLSS, the resolution before scaling to the output resolution. Applying LOD bias is easy, it's just something the developer needs to do.
Nvidia DLSS 1 and 2 antialiasing discussion *spawn*
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Flappy Pannus
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Oh FFS. How does this keep happening
I'm using -1.625 from drvers to fix lod bias in Alan Wake Remasterd, when using DLSS Quality mode.
https://imgsli.com/NzQ3ODE
https://imgsli.com/NzQ3ODE
Did you notice any issues by forcing LOD bias per chance? On Alan's clothing/pants leg at all?
I don't believe I noticed anything like that, but I only played 45 mins. What I have noticed is that I need to change "Antialiasing - Transparency Supersampling" to "0x00000008 AA_MODE_REPLAY_MODE_ALL" in Profile Inspector or LOD bias will not be applied. I have put full uncropped pngs in google drive including native 4k.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DjdpIUl7q8AGPRiC4hpCed3KTyARcyxd
NVIDIA DLSS Adds 10 Games In October, Including The Newly Released Back 4 Blood
Rise of the Tomb Raider Adds NVIDIA DLSS, Shadow of the Tomb Raider Receives A DLSS Upgrade
With 10 more DLSS games coming this October, NVIDIA DLSS is now accelerating performance with uncompromised image quality in 120 games and apps, including today’s release of Back 4 Blood. This October also sees the launch of NVIDIA DLSS in Baldur’s Gate 3, Chivalry 2, Crysis Remastered Trilogy, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Sword and Fairy 7, and Swords of Legends Online. And it’s available now in recently released titles Alan Wake Remastered and F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/october-2021-rtx-dlss-game-updates/
Rise of the Tomb Raider Adds NVIDIA DLSS, Shadow of the Tomb Raider Receives A DLSS Upgrade
With 10 more DLSS games coming this October, NVIDIA DLSS is now accelerating performance with uncompromised image quality in 120 games and apps, including today’s release of Back 4 Blood. This October also sees the launch of NVIDIA DLSS in Baldur’s Gate 3, Chivalry 2, Crysis Remastered Trilogy, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Sword and Fairy 7, and Swords of Legends Online. And it’s available now in recently released titles Alan Wake Remastered and F.I.S.T.: Forged In Shadow Torch.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/october-2021-rtx-dlss-game-updates/
Wow. I wonder what pushed SE to implement that, let alone add DLSS into ROTTR.
Flappy Pannus
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ROTTR is very surprising, and if I had to pick one game to get DLSS just for image quality alone, that would be it. The PC version in particular has particularly awful sub-pixel aliasing, even running it on the PS5 with checkerboarding isn't as bad, so very curious to see how this looks as it's rare to see games with TAA get DLSS.
It also means far more rigs will be able to run it with MXAO which can provide a dramatic lighting difference in some scenes, the performance cost of that at 4K put it out of the reach of the vast majority of cards.
It also means far more rigs will be able to run it with MXAO which can provide a dramatic lighting difference in some scenes, the performance cost of that at 4K put it out of the reach of the vast majority of cards.
Flappy Pannus
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Er, "without" of course.
DX11 version of ROTTR (the one with MXAO) is mostly CPU limited these days (at least on GPUs which support DLSS that is), and DLSS won't help with that much.
DavidGraham
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I agree, though it's called VXAO not MXAO.
Flappy Pannus
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Ah, too bad - didn't know it wasn't available in DX12. Yeah in DX11 my 9400F def holds it back from a sustained 60 whereas it's easily obtainable with DX12, albeit it's not too far off that a slightly more powerful CPU could reach it. Still, biggest detriment to ROTT has always been the awful pixel shimmering, eliminating that is going to make a world of difference.
We'll have to see how they'll implement DLSS in these two old titles.
ROTTR specifically doesn't have modern TAA and rely on SMAA T2X instead I believe?
In fact I think it would be a great title to use Nv's "new" DLAA mode so hopefully this will be included in all of upcoming titles with DLSS support.
I think ROTTR was plain SMAA.
Deathloop adds DLSS support with Update 1
Seem to be the first implementation of v2.3.0.0 as well.
Seem to be the first implementation of v2.3.0.0 as well.
I remember injecting SMAA with Reshade because game's own implementation was rather poor, so you're likely right.
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Whats new in this latest DLSS version?
Likely improvement from continued DLSS research and developer/consumer feedback from different models/algorithms.
