NV45 spotted @ Anand

[DSC]

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=2064&p=2

Upon closer look you'll notice that this particular card has a PCI Express x16 interface, but with no bridge chip. It looks like the rumors of a bridgeless NV45 were true.

 

[Mariner]

It's also good to see that someone is finally making a dual-DVI X800 (Asus card shown later in the article). I know quite a few people have been asking for one of these for some time.

As regards the NV45, are we just expecting it to be a PCI Express-native NV40 with higher clocks?

 

[fallguy]

The power plug is interesting as well.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

It's also good to see that someone is finally making a dual-DVI X800 (Asus card shown later in the article). I know quite a few people have been asking for one of these for some time.

That PCI-E X800 looks like it has no power connector at all, too.

 

[Striker]

Logical, PCI-E can supply quite much more power than AGP if my memory serves me well..

 

[BRiT]

This will be rather interesting to see what comes of the PCI-E series of cards if the ATI X800 (Pro?) does not need any additional power while the NV6800 (GT?) needs a custom power supply of sorts. 8)

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/shows/computex/2004/prelim/IMG_6085_small.jpg

Anybody else notice that it also has holes for the same 3x2 connector as NV45?

 

[MuFu]

Well perhaps there's been something going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of and BTX PSUs (+ maybe newer ATX PSUs) will come with a dedicated, 3x2 connector for GPUs. Until then I'm sure an adapter will allow use with current units.

Looks like they've replaced the white MM header with on-board contacts too.

 

[Tim Murray]

As regards the NV45, are we just expecting it to be a PCI Express-native NV40 with higher clocks?

Pretty much, higher clocks from a general respin and low-k.

 

[Lezmaka]

Since it seems NV4x (not NV40) are all native PCIE, and it seems the HSI works both ways (AGP->PCIE and PCIE->AGP), are there any technical reasons that would keep a board manufacturer from making AGP versions? I'm wondering mostly about the mainstream cards, since that's what's in my price range.

 

[Tim Murray]

Since it seems NV4x (not NV40) are all native PCIE, and it seems the HSI works both ways (AGP->PCIE and PCIE->AGP), are there any technical reasons that would keep a board manufacturer from making AGP versions? I'm wondering mostly about the mainstream cards, since that's what's in my price range.

No, there are not. However, I don't think you should expect to see NV4x chipsets that are not the NV40 or NV45 anytime soon.

 

[dan2097]

Baron is that confirmed that they are going low k?

 

[psurge]

Baron - do you know how much the core clock is being upped?

 

[AlphaWolf]

Baron - do you know how much the core clock is being upped?

Well if you click the anand link, it says 450.

 

[Tim Murray]

Mmmm, I would say 450 is probably a bit on the conservative side. It wouldn't surprise me if they hit 500, but I would expect that they would hit the original NV40 target of 475Mhz. Then again, it all kind of depends on yields, doesn't it?

 

[Moose]

This will be rather interesting to see what comes of the PCI-E series of cards if the ATI X800 (Pro?) does not need any additional power while the NV6800 (GT?) needs a custom power supply of sorts. 8)

Yep, Especially with all the PCIe/AGP combo boards coming out that won't require a special power supply.

 

[Lezmaka]

Well, looks like NV45 isn't native PCIE either. They just moved the bridge to the gpu package.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2067

 

[nelg]

Well, I guess it is made by TSMC.

Note: we've had to blur or cut out various markings on the card itself to protect our sources, nothing else has been modified in these pictures

 

[991060]

Well, looks like NV45 isn't native PCIE either. They just moved the bridge to the gpu package.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2067

Good find, now what makes NV45 different from NV40? 8)

 

[jvd]

Well, looks like NV45 isn't native PCIE either. They just moved the bridge to the gpu package.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=2067

Good find, now what makes NV45 different from NV40? 8)

just what he said its on the package and not a seperate chip