NV40 3DMark 2003 scores revealed -theinquirer

[Doomtrooper]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf

89 Watts

 

[Ardrid]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf

89 Watts

Which refers to the maximum power output. AMD and Intel use TDP differently. But as I already mentioned, the A64/Opteron never gets near that figure.

 

[ChrisRay]

I don't get it? Why doesn't nVidia just do what 3dFX was going to do with the Voodoo 5 6000 - use an external AC outlet for power. This would probably be the simplest, easiest, and most convenient method for users.

1) How well was that idea received on the Voodoo?

2) Cost.

It really wasnt recieved at all. I mean. How many People with Voodoo5 6000s do you know who've been around to complain or apreciate it?

 

[Pete]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/30430.pdf

89 Watts

"[R]est assured the current 2.2 GHz model [FX-51/3200+ 1MB] does not dissipated [sic] 89 Watts"

and

Opteron & Athlon 64 Power dissipation

 

[Johnny Rotten]

I thought 89W is the ceiling for the current 130nm A64 process, of which 3700+ might be the end of the line?

You are correct.

 

[digitalwanderer]

It really wasnt recieved at all. I mean. How many People with Voodoo5 6000s do you know who've been around to complain or apreciate it?

One, but he appreciates it.

 

[Simon F]

Depends on the system, my Nephew has 6 fans , all Delta and it sounds like the case is ready to launch into space,

If he put the fan outlets on the bottom of the case and added a skirt, do you think it could double as a hovercraft?

 

[Dio]

Wireless keyboards, mouse and network I can do, but wireless mains is tricky...

 

[vb]

I was thinking the same thing. Surely it'd be easier for consumers to find another outlet on the surge protector than to dig around their case for two separate molex lines, and this would probably be standard from now on for the high-end parts. Maybe the IHVs don't have enough room on the backplate to fit an AC connector?

Cooling should be still two PCI slots. Two slots=two PCI backplates. I think there should be enough room. For myself, if I were to use it, I would use a second old PSU 230W just for card and, maybe, some fans.

But I have an AMD1700+ that goes 2.33GHz and I use it at 1.8GHz in silent mode and i'm very happy with performance, thank you, so who am I to talk?

 

[Evildeus]

Well, i don't know about power consuption, but if i look at THG charts i would say 9800XT and 5950U are about the same (in fact less for 5950U)

 

[Dave Baumann]

I don't see that has anything to do with the discussion over the next gen power specifcations, especially since NV40 is a larger chip than NV35/8 and its thought that ATI will be moving from 150nm to 130nm low-k.

 

[volt]

And since NVIDIA strays away from low-k (even Jen-Hsun says low-k is unecessary heh), I assume the power consumption for NV40 is just because of it.

 

[Evildeus]

I don't see that has anything to do with the discussion over the next gen power specifcations, especially since NV40 is a larger chip than NV35/8 and its thought that ATI will be moving from 150nm to 130nm low-k.

Well, the general assumption is that R380 is less consuming power than 5950U, which seems to be wrong.

And it is related to this part:

IIRC The current NV cards top out at close to 100W, the 9800Pro more.

I doubt that.

Moreover, i don't remember seeing any evidence that R420 is on 0.13 + low-k. Care to refresh my memory

 

[ChrisRay]

It really wasnt recieved at all. I mean. How many People with Voodoo5 6000s do you know who've been around to complain or apreciate it?

One, but he appreciates it.

I'd say anyone who forked over money for a V5 6000 was hardcore enough to understand and know what they are getting. I really doubt he bought it for the Power Supply Hookups anyway.

 

[ChrisRay]

Well, i don't know about power consuption, but if i look at THG charts i would say 9800XT and 5950U are about the same (in fact less for 5950U)

Ya I saw that the other day too. I honestly assumed the r360 was consuming significantly less power than the NV35/Nv38 too. But you wouldnt see me post a THG graph because I'd probably eaten alive for it

 

[Dave Baumann]

Well, the general assumption is that R380 is less consuming power than 5950U, which seems to be wrong.

But that still doesn't bear any relevance to this discussion.

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=64638694A79F2B5748256E6E00481A56&query=NVIDIA

 

[Evildeus]

Well, the general assumption is that R380 is less consuming power than 5950U, which seems to be wrong.

But that still doesn't bear any relevance to this discussion.

I didn't say that it would have between R420/NV40, cos i don't know, and those who knows are under NDA, so? But it has some information to answer some questions asked during this thread.

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=64638694A79F2B5748256E6E00481A56&query=NVIDIA

Thx any idea on the consequences on power consumption? What's the difference between the "k" of 0.13 for NV40 and R420? k=3.6 for Nv and k=2.9 for R420?


ChrisRay: Yeah i know, but well, it's better than nothing

 

[vb]

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=64638694A79F2B5748256E6E00481A56&query=NVIDIA

OT: RV380 on 110 nm? no mention of low-K alredy used in RV360? Rather strange.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/N...8694A79F2B5748256E6E00481A56&query=NVIDIA

OT: RV380 on 110 nm? no mention of low-K alredy used in RV360? Rather strange.

Well, they RV360 isn't even in the chart, so I don't know why it's strange to not show it as 130nm, low-k.

However, the RV380 at 0.11 does surprise me a bit. I expected RV370 on 0.11u, but I was expecting RV380 to be 0.13 low-k.

 

[vb]

RV380 is considered PCI-E version of RV360

However, the RV380 at 0.11 does surprise me a bit. I expected RV370 on 0.11u, but I was expecting RV380 to be 0.13 low-k.

That was my point, really.