Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [pre E3 2019]

Discussion in 'Console Technology' started by TheAlSpark, Dec 31, 2018.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. chris1515

    Legend Regular

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    6,592
    Likes Received:
    7,105
    Location:
    Barcelona Spain
  2. iroboto

    iroboto Daft Funk
    Legend Regular Subscriber

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2014
    Messages:
    13,500
    Likes Received:
    16,528
    Location:
    The North
  3. Osamar

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    36
    Location:
    40,00ºN - 00,00ºE
  4. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member
    Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2003
    Messages:
    9,878
    Likes Received:
    4,053
    Location:
    Finland
  5. Jay

    Jay
    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,630
    Likes Received:
    2,955
    The funny thing is the ms dev blog mentions Nvidia and Intel but not AMD.

    Going from what we understand Navi is pretty late, so I wouldn't be surprised what is and isn't in it at this point.
    Might end up being a minor stop gap to their next gen architecture.
    Have we actually heard any firm details, or leaks that are strong enough to be considered facts?

    Maybe I'm just in a somber mood....
     
  6. Kaotik

    Kaotik Drunk Member
    Legend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2003
    Messages:
    9,878
    Likes Received:
    4,053
    Location:
    Finland
    Because AMD doesn't have a product out supporting it
     
  7. Jay

    Jay
    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,630
    Likes Received:
    2,955
    And Intel does?
     
  8. Ike Turner

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    2,105
    Likes Received:
    2,290
    Intel has already announced and publicly demonstrated VRS on the upcoming Gen11. Microsoft isn't going to discuss or mention unannounced HW from AMD.
     
    #1048 Ike Turner, Mar 19, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2019
    Shoujoboy, DSoup and iroboto like this.
  9. TheAlSpark

    TheAlSpark Moderator
    Moderator Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2004
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    8,533
    Location:
    ಠ_ಠ
    iroboto likes this.
  10. Jay

    Jay
    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2013
    Messages:
    3,630
    Likes Received:
    2,955
    This is precisely my point.
    We know more about Intel gen 11 unreleased gpu than Navi at this point!

    I'm not suggesting MS puts it out there without AMD's permission about their chips.
    MS could easily say expect it to be supported in our future console.
    We all may know it will be AMD based, but it hasn't officially been stated as such, and they would be talking about their own product not AMD, they wouldn't even be confirming it would be in Navi. Could be a customisation.

    I'm not saying it won't be in Navi, just that a patent doesn't make it a fact for me.
     
  11. anexanhume

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    1,535
  12. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■)
    Moderator Legend Alpha

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2002
    Messages:
    19,105
    Likes Received:
    21,726
    iroboto likes this.
  13. temesgen

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2007
    Messages:
    1,680
    Likes Received:
    486
    AMD does what ninteldon't
     
    Nesh likes this.
  14. anexanhume

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    1,535
  15. DieH@rd

    Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2006
    Messages:
    6,333
    Likes Received:
    2,337
    And in 16GB per stack capacity. Impressive. Two of those would be so nice to have in a console.
     
  16. anexanhume

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    1,535
    I think two is definitely cost prohibitive but a single 16GB stack is a conversation starter.
     
  17. Wynix

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Messages:
    1,052
    Likes Received:
    57
    2 X 8GB stacks for double bandwidth would be more likely than a mere 410GB/s.
     
  18. bgroovy

    Regular Newcomer

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    626
    It's definitely promising compared to needing 4 stacks.
     
  19. anexanhume

    Veteran Regular

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    1,535
    We're likely in the 400-500 realm if we're talking 256-bit GDDR6 as a comparison point.
     
  20. Globalisateur

    Globalisateur Globby
    Veteran Regular Subscriber

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    4,242
    Likes Received:
    3,141
    Location:
    France
    But 410 GB/s is too low for next gen. They can use >500 GB/s cheap (compared to HBM2) GDDR6 chips for PS5. Why would they use a more expensive 410GB/s solution ?
     
Loading...
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Beyond3D has been around for over a decade and prides itself on being the best place on the web for in-depth, technically-driven discussion and analysis of 3D graphics hardware. If you love pixels and transistors, you've come to the right place!

    Beyond3D is proudly published by GPU Tools Ltd.
Loading...