News & Rumors: Xbox One (codename Durango)

It would be interesting to see if somebody would make an external 256gb SSD that's designed to snap on the side of the XB1 where the USB port is.

Tommy McClain

 

Amazon.co.uk.wat

Xbox One + Kinect: £379.85
(www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-7UV-00080-Xbox-Console-Kinect/dp/B00BE4OUBG)

Xbox One + Kinect + Titanfall: £389.00
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-One-Titanfall-Bundle-Kinect/dp/B00I9WV32K/)

Xbox One + Kinect + Titanfall + 12 months Gold: £399.99

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Xbox One - Kinect - Titanfall - 12 months Gold: 349.99
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Xbox-One-without-Kinect/dp/B00CM1KUVE/)

Either people are stupid, or this isn't going to sell very well.

 

Looks like price parity now with Sony in the UK.

It's gonna be a toss up for games now as far as console choice is concerned. If MS manage to get indies and JP developers on board it'll be interesting.

 

I'll take - MS is stupid and this isn't going to sell very well.

Then again, it's not like a few months everybody will still have those same choices. Once the inventory is gone, it's gone.

 

Why do you dislike Ms and the Xbox so much? Have you always felt this way or is it just since they dropped the Kinect 2?

 

Forget about my personal feelings for a second and think about everything that has happened and then determine whether you really believe that all the bundles and packages that the Xb0x currently has now will still be offered in a couple of months.

I don't think there will be. I don't think that come Holiday 2014 there will even be Xb0X+Kinect bundles in the stores.

As function pointed out, none of the price points make the slightest bit of sense right now. But once all those bundles are gone?

 

The Kinectless version can and should go lower than $399.

 

Yesterday Eurogamer reported they will also have price parity with PlayStation 4 in Japan too.

Many words have been written about Microsoft's difficulty in luring Japanese developers to their box. They've paid for development in the past (remember Blue Dragon?) but wether they'll continue to do that is another question. I imagine it's hard to artificially stimulate interest for developers, Japanese developers in particular usually go where the install base is and that's increasingly mobile. Hence recent efforts to get classic RPGs (Final Fantasy series in particular) on mobile. Those kind of games are well suited to frequent but short bursts of gameplay.

 

Considering the Japanese console market doesn't appear all that worth chasing anymore (in terms of sales, anyway) it's increasingly moot.

That said, I want to say Spencer has hinted at some Japanese-y things.

I'm hoping for some sales. A few days ago Microcenter had the One+Kinect for $399 in store.

 

Non-news. Nothing to see here, move along!

The Verge covered Satya Nadella's appearance at Code Conference and one of the things that came up was speculation about selling the Xbox Division, being urged by investors.

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Except...

I'm not sure comment like that are trustworthy. In fact in business you never mention a sell until the last minute, and it's only leaks that suggest its happening. If MS are in meetings arranging to sell the XB division, they'll still claim business as usual. Saying, "yeah, we're gonna sell it to someone else," would only damage the present business.

 

If they said "we ain't never gonna unbundle Kinnect" (Steve Ballmer was an articulate man) thats fine. It's a double negative

I read carefully what people like CEOs say, certainly as carefully as their words have been chosen. Words are their meaning are really important and you can avoid any amounts of certainty by prefacing statements with "I believe..". Because a person's beliefs are arbitrary from actual positions.

And equally, as Nadella did here, you can also preface statements with "We have no plans to.." because that's just stating your position at the time of the interview. Tomorrow is different, in an hour it could be different. It's really rare to get a definitive statement from any company spokesman.

 

In football the board usually give the manager a vote of confidence just prior to sacking him...

 

And sometimes when they are happy with them, like Arsène Wenger, 18 years

 

And if their intent today is to sell xbox..?

 

Precisely. Their intention may be to manage XB as a going concern as they court buyers. Where the question was asked to determine if MS were ever going to sell XB or not, the answer left it to supposition. Which is what any good answer does when you don't want to give anything away!

The possibility of XB being sold is still on the cards, very much as the possibility of Kinect being unbundled was despite frequent apparent claims to the contrary.

 

http://www.wpcentral.com/nadella-bing-and-xbox-not-sale

I can't understand what some of you think about Microsoft and Xbox and what's the relation between the unbundling Kinect and selling the entire Xbox division.

Real-time speech translation coming to Skype later this year, shown in video

For more information go here.

 

It seems pretty clear that literally no matter what Microsoft says some people will want to believe they want to sell. Such as this after a denial

Ok then, no reasoning with that.

Imagine if MS actually ever did say anything even remotely readable as selling Xbox, the internet may stop

They've already made tons of statements against selling and it convinced none of that group. Yet another new one wont change anything.

There's no reasonable buyers for Xbox as a whole. Who?

Now, I think they could still sell it piecemeal of course. The brand here, a studio there.

I dont see anybody who could get close to cost value out of Xbox except MS, really.

I will say, I see a potential for MS to get out of this business in the long term (meaning, after this gen for example). It's this, if the core console market becomes more and more tiny, as there are some signs of it doing. At some point the puny sales aren't worth chasing, the same way handhelds aren't worth chasing and thus MS never did a handheld. But we still cant say that's happening. This gen will tell much.

 

There's no correlation other than denial does not necessarily equate to the truth or what will happen. MS said they were not going to provide a Kinect-less XB1. They then provided exactly that. MS say they won't sell XB division. It still might happen even if they say otherwise. That's not proven - no-one's taking the Kinect situation as proof that a sale of XB is on the cards. The Kinect situation is only taken as disproof of the assertion that XB won't be sold. A citation of the CEO saying, "We aren't wanting to sell XB division at this time," is no proof that the XB division won't be in someone else's hands in a month or two's time.

 

If people are going to talk about Microsoft selling of Xbox, they should be providing proof that Microsoft is making steps to do so. Just because some investors would like to see it sold off, doesn't mean they will. So far, there is absolutely no information out there to believe that they will. I could easily say Sony is going to sell off Playstation, and there'd be absolutely no way that anyone could definitively prove that they're not going to sell it. The onus should be on me to prove that they are. Until something concrete happens to signal they are going to sell, it just sounds like a bunch of brand warriors trolling.