Um... wasn't Pandemic one of the developers G4TV used in their inflammatory show about the X360's 2 SKU strategy?barnak said:
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MechanizedDeath said:
Actually Condemmend and Full Auto were playable. Condemend sold me on some of its game play, while Full Auto had nice effects. EA had NFS, but the game flat out sucked IMHO. Racing game on rails. Hopefully Sony will show something to peak my interest soon because I'm tired of all the Playstation hype. It would be nice to own two great gaming systems.
seismologist said:
It would be a huge mistake if they did, but I don't believe that Sony could produce the required supplies for such a launch. The PS2 and PSP were both in very limied supply at launch, so it seems unreasonable to expect them to not only have enough systems for a launch in a single region, but to be able to supply all 3 major regions at once.
But even if they could, launching at the absolute slowest time for system and game sales in both the US and Europe would be just begging for a lackluster launch. Sony sells over a million consoles per month in America alone during the holidays, but is lucky to break 200k sold in a month during the Spring, so why would they want to launch in the Spring?
Of course, with their history of supply problems, maybe it would be better to launch at a time where the system will be in low demand.
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Powderkeg said:
exactly. It would be easier to service 3 territories if the demand is lower. Like they say, I think it's important to have the PS3 on the shelves even if it's wih limited availability. It can gradually build up the userbase over the course of the year. While getting exclusives from Japan and multiplatform releases at the same time as 360.
Then prepare for the big guns next fall like GTA and MGS.
Makes total sense to me.
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Random questions:Powderkeg said:
Was GoW playable by actual show-goers? Never remember reading hands-on impressions, just people who watched a vid loop or an Epic guy playing.
Was NFS and Oblivion the 360 versions that were playable, or the PC versions?
Was Top Spin actually playable. I only knew Condemned and Full Auto were playable, but didn't know the others were too. PD0 was apparently playable at the MTV show, and Kameo might have been (too lazy to check).
In any case, my point was that 6 months out, the 360 didn't have many playable games. Looking at the launch lineup, the marquee titles weren't really playable, save for PD0, which looked awful. I forget how TGS 98 went, but I don't remember there being a lot of PS2 games playable there either, yet they pulled off the Spring launch just fine.
IMO, PS3 seems to be tracking just like the 360 and PS2 in readiness (we'll know for sure Friday), and the only thing making a global Spring launch a bad idea IMO would be quantity of supply. Demand will outstrip supply for a while anyway, so waiting for a Fall release doesn't really buy them any major advantages. Hopefully they make another launch window announcement at TGS to clarify, but I'm guessing anything can change up until Feb. They might well delay the US launch if they see the 360 post low numbers for the holiday season. Ultimately, we have to wait and see. PEACE.
mckmas8808
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YES!! I can post again. *thanks the lord and does a dance in circles* I too believe Gholbine that Sony will try to get a global launch before the end of the Summer. Keep in mind that the Summer is over around September 21st, so that could mean a May release in Japan, a June release in NA, and a September release in Europe or something to that effect.
At a worldwide launch with low supply, Sony can get away with charging a higher price which they've hinted at, and still make as much as possible on the released hardware because early adopters would still buy it. The concern then would be how quick the price drops especially when supply picks up but demand lags due to price.MechanizedDeath said:
And regards limiting factor I wouldn't be surprised if the BluRay drive is the rarest component.
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I'm not so sure about that Shifty.
Look at this thread from GA. http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=62618
BR seems pretty fully resolved and ready to fly from the looks of this.
Look at this thread from GA. http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=62618
BR seems pretty fully resolved and ready to fly from the looks of this.
What's the manufacturing rate on blue laser diodes though? I imagine the manufacturing of these isn't a mature or well optimized process, hence the high prices of blue laser devices.
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Well Sanyo were planning 1 -2 million a month in 2003. So i can't see production capacity being a problem for the lasers.
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,103826,00.asp
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,103826,00.asp
Of all the things to nitpick about...Sean*O said:
Besides, who exactly are you talking to here? Not to mention, looking at the prices for peripherals MS has disclosed - $100 for a wifi dongle/20GB HDD, $50 for controllers, way overpriced 64MB memcards etc), "M$" seem pretty fitting to me.
Guden Oden said:Of all the things to nitpick about...
Besides, who exactly are you talking to here? Not to mention, looking at the prices for peripherals MS has disclosed - $100 for a wifi dongle/20GB HDD, $50 for controllers, way overpriced 64MB memcards etc), "M$" seem pretty fitting to me.
I agree completely about the controllers and memory card, but the WiFi adapter and HDD are actually not as overpriced as they seem. The Linksys 802.11a USB adapter (One of the cheapest on the market) is $75 at wholesale prices, and you can't get a removable SATA drive for under $50. Microsoft's would be slightly more expensive than these to manufacture, and they are obviously getting a good profit for them, but it's not as bad as the meory cards, which MS is probably making 500% or more profit off of.
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