MS - Nintendo Union !!!

[Vince]

I do think that something like this could happen. The reason is neither Nintendo or MS will be abel to come out on top when competing with Sony imo.

Umm, bud... <looks at watch>... <looks at console sales> ... Prediction just isn't your bag of tea.

I thoroughly enjoy this glimpse at young Westerners take at Eastern buisness practices - it's the perfect close to the day in which the Sox kicked the Cubs ass and I threw-down with a Cubs fan! Good times.

PS. Last part was not to Q, obviously.

 

[marconelly!]

You should read the book before making judgement.

You know what they say is the easiest way to launch the BS news? Yep, to cover it under tons and tons of truthful information. That book certainly offers a lot of insight and true info, but that doesn't mean every single bit of it true.

 

[PC-Engine]

Anybody remember that article that mentions MS and N patting each others backs at E3?

 

[V3]

I do think that something like this could happen. The reason is neither Nintendo or MS will be abel to come out on top when competing with Sony imo.

Well, Sonic is on Nintendo system after all, so anything could happend. But that reason of neither Nintendo or MS will be able to come out on top when competing with Sony, isn't a good reason for them to join.

If they do join, I think it would be interesting, though I prefer them seperate. Afterall, there are only 3 players on the market, and more are needed IMO.

 

[archie4oz]

PCEngine, it was $6 bil according to Opening the Xbox.

PCEngine is correct... Nintendo's asking price was $25 Billion (6 would've been ridiculously low)...

Anybody remember that article that mentions MS and N patting each others backs at E3?

Well if it was NoA guys I wouldn't be surprised since they're literally down the street from Microsoft and get along quite well...

 

[chaphack]

More interested in this Qroach quote.

MS talked to Nintendo about this before both xbox and GC released and nitnendo was interested up until MS wanting to use the xbox hardware over what they were designing.

 

[marconelly!]

Actually, I've hard MS was talking to both Sony and Nintendo, asking them to use some form of windows in their consoles (PS2 and GC) in which case, MS was supposed to not make it's own console. They both refused, outright, though.

 

[Vince]

Actually, I've hard MS was talking to both Sony and Nintendo, asking them to use some form of windows in their consoles (PS2 and GC) in which case, MS was supposed to not make it's own console. They both refused, outright, though.

Forgot about that, didn't Kutaragi meet Bill Gates around the same time and appearently the meeting was a tragic failure. I think someone overheard something about "needing kneepads" before Ken left...

 

[chaphack]

erm yes. That was what i said in the earlier post. Using MS OS for their consoles. A new partnership with N might still be irked out in times of needs.

 

[notAFanB]

More interested in this Qroach quote.

MS talked to Nintendo about this before both xbox and GC released and nitnendo was interested up until MS wanting to use the xbox hardware over what they were designing.

pretty much what it says, ie Nintendo is unwilling to hand over it's profitable(current) model over to microsoft while it sits on the back benches.

 

[rabidrabbit]

Anybody remember that article that mentions MS and N patting each others backs at E3?

...or did it just look like both of them were patting each other's backs, when in reality it was just MS patting Nintendo's back

 

[Evil_Cloud]

Actually, I've hard MS was talking to both Sony and Nintendo, asking them to use some form of windows in their consoles (PS2 and GC) in which case, MS was supposed to not make it's own console. They both refused, outright, though.

Forgot about that, didn't Kutaragi meet Bill Gates around the same time and appearently the meeting was a tragic failure. I think someone overheard something about "needing kneepads" before Ken left...

Only Sega's Dreamcast used an windows OS...

 

[maskrider]

Actually, I've hard MS was talking to both Sony and Nintendo, asking them to use some form of windows in their consoles (PS2 and GC) in which case, MS was supposed to not make it's own console. They both refused, outright, though.

Forgot about that, didn't Kutaragi meet Bill Gates around the same time and appearently the meeting was a tragic failure. I think someone overheard something about "needing kneepads" before Ken left...

Only Sega's Dreamcast used an windows OS...

I heard that not all games are WinCE, or just the OS at the firmware is WinCE ?

 

[Sonic]

On Windows CE for the Dreamcast....the vast majority of games did not use Windows CE. Developers didn't prefer it as it was quite hard (at the time) to get reasonable performance out of the Dreamcast when it was much easier to use SEGA's own OS's.

I doubt Nintendo would really like the idea of teaming up with MS. If anything they could just buy SEGA and call it a day. Same with MS. If MS and Nintendo were to team up it could mean one of two things.

1. Nintendo and MS team up agaisnt Sony and both combine to have a force to be reckoned with. They fail miserably and Nintendo's profits start to diminish at an astonishing rate. Sales aren't what are expected and the two companies try their hardest to make a success of a dismal failure.

2. They team up and are a force to be reckoned with. Aside from that what is likely to happen is both Nintendo and MS realize the potential of such a partnership and utilize that to the best of their abilities. They have a buttload of quality games, one console that they both make games on in the next generation. The competition between Nintendo and MS stops, and they both go after Sony. A Nintendo and MS partnership could gain a 50% marketshare next generation, especially considering if the console were to be easy to program for and was comparable to PS3 by a good amount.

Of course, none of these scenarios are likely to happen as I just don't see Nintendo partnering with MS.

 

[darkblu]

On Windows CE for the Dreamcast....the vast majority of games did not use Windows CE. Developers didn't prefer it as it was quite hard (at the time) to get reasonable performance out of the Dreamcast when it was much easier to use SEGA's own OS's.

AFAIK, the essential use of winCE on the DC was for utilizing the d3d implementation available when making d3d-originated ports/multiplatformers. needless to say, the very idea of d3d-originated ports/d3d-targeted multiplatformers appearing on the DC was questionable, at best, and didn't produce anything good. those d3d-originated ports (at least those i've seen) ended up being of so much lower visual (as well as gameplay) quality than the DC-natives that it wasn't even funny. anybody remember the tomb raider port on the DC?

 

[Tahir2]

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2. They team up and are a force to be reckoned with. Aside from that what is likely to happen is both Nintendo and MS realize the potential of such a partnership and utilize that to the best of their abilities. They have a buttload of quality games, one console that they both make games on in the next generation. The competition between Nintendo and MS stops, and they both go after Sony. A Nintendo and MS partnership could gain a 50% marketshare next generation, especially considering if the console were to be easy to program for and was comparable to PS3 by a good amount.

Of course, none of these scenarios are likely to happen as I just don't see Nintendo partnering with MS.

Of course what happens then is that MS and Nintendo both get greedy and break of this partnership and we see them both in court for various IP issues and someone mentions breach of contract.

After that to bring everything to a close with an out of court settlement one of the players accepts a bribe and MS get Mario as their Mascot.

I heard this from a diviner with 'insider' information.

 

[P4-Fan]

If Sony uses nvidia or ati for its PS3, I think a nintendo-MS linkup might make sense. MS would outbid Nintendo to sign the remaining gfx company. This would leave Nintendo without a good graphics chip and not enough resources to put one together. They could be forced to out of the console business.

In the long run it doesn't make much sense to have 3 incompatible consoles. My bet is that the two most financially secure companies will be the ones left standing, especially after MS has proved they can put out a quality product that competes well with the GC.

 

[jvd]

alright guys. I used my delorean and 1.21 gigawatts to travel into the future and here is how it breaks down. Sega is bought by square , which in turn is bought by ea . Ea is then bought by nintendo which is then bought by ms. Ms launches a 300 dollar mega system that costs them a grand each to make. But its released with 200 games on launch day. Does extremly well in japan and america . Mean while the cell chip doesn't work at all. Sony ends up re releasing the psx. It fails really badly. After sonys failure the phantom becomes the number 2 console in the world. 2 years later atari comes out with the jaguar 2 and regains the console market share. You heard it here first

 

[cthellis42]

What happened to 3DO?!!

 

[Almasy]

What happened to 3DO?!!

Isn´t it in bankrupt?