MS - Nintendo Union !!!

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chaphack

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That is the buzz over at IGN. So what you thinketh? I think if that go through(along with stronger Sega ties), Sony and their billion dollars investment might go pooop in no time. :p

MS - Nintendo - Sega - Rare - Bungie, can you say potent combination? :oops:
 
It'll never happen.. moreover, if the talks are true (specifically MS being the suitor to Nintendo), then IMO it sort of subverts MS's confidence in gaining success solo.
 
You mean it is being discussed in IGN forums?
Now, that's a reliable source :LOL:
Surely worth makin a topic here!

Even if MS did buy Nintendo, it wouldn't automatically mean doom for Sony.
I mean, Nintendo would not be the same Nintendo in most peoples eyes if it was part of MS/xbox. Even if MS would market their next console under Nintendo brand, it would not necessarily sell any better than curent xbox and GC.
Adding Sega to this formula would not matter much either, just look at the sales of Sega software in PS2, xbox and GC.

It's all about the brand recognition, and Sony is in very stron position in this matter. Combined xbox+Nintendo (+Sega) brand would possibly not be much stronger than they currently are
 
Not only it's not going to happen, but IMO, Nintendo would be crazy to look for such a kind of a deal with Microsoft when they have Sony in the neighbourhood who, I'm sure would jump to such an opportunity with open hands. Seriously, if you wanted to align with somebody, you might as well align with someobody who's clearly winning (then again, Nintendo seems to like it just as it is, and has no intentions of 'aligning'). Sony might not be getting *much* with a deal of that kind, but in reality, that would seal their main competitor's fate. Microsoft would simply be marginalized if such deal takes place, and I'm sure both Nintendo and Sony would love to see that day.
 
No it is not, it is on IGN N-Query section.

ANYWAY,

I see it as an entire possibility! :eek:

MS is not doing as well as they wanted, losing tons ol' greenies. Nintendo is in the doldrums, pride crushed by Sony since the 32bit days. A collaboration might bring about new ideas and a bright future.

MS will handle the software side of Nintendo GameX, from OS to APIs, while Nintendo does the brandselling. Both working hand in hand with ATI for the GameX tech. We will have MS Games Studios and Nintendo providing killer exclusive first party games!!!! :oops:

Anyone remember a past MS conference in which Billy boy summoned Sony, Nintendo and Sega for a meeting. Something about using MS OS for their game consoles. THAT, my friend, will be(has always been) MS main yummy yum and not selling billions of XBOXEN, imo.

Nintendo will do a 199 games only console, its all in Nintendo hands as long as it uses MS software. While of course, MS might wanna have its own multimedia setop to compete with Cell and to push more MS software. Working together with Panasonic maybe? GameXQ! :oops: :LOL:
 
MS may want to align with N, but N has no reason/incentive to join MS. Why would N do that when atleast they are not losing money on GC (despite less than expected success)? Why would N risk alienate their loyal fans?
 
If Nintendo and M$ does collaborate on next-gen consoles, at least we can expect XB2 to have a decent controller!

Sheesh, every single idea on that controller is STOLEN from someone else!

Simply enlarging the size 125% compared to your competition does not an original design make. :LOL::rolleyes::LOL:

*G*
 
chaphack said:
No it is not, it is on IGN N-Query section.
Let's have a look:

[URL said:
http://cube.ign.com/mail.html[/URL]]
GameCube 2

Dear Matt, What have you found out, if anything, about the successor to GameCube?
Matty

Matt responds: A fine question. Well, I don't have enough to run with a news piece, but after talking to several insider pals around the industry here's what I've been able to come up with:

* The console is being referred to as GameCube 2 internally
* ATI has been in development with a graphics chip for "GCN 2" for more than a year; it's supposedly coming along very nicely
* Several games are already being designed with the system in mind, though no hardware is yet available
* The hardware is expected to ultimately ship at a $299 price point -- directly against Xbox 2 and PS3
* The CPU partner has not been set, though the obvious choice is IBM
* 2005 release is likely as Nintendo wants to beat the competition to the gates

I hate to lend credit to this ongoing rumor, too, but I figure I can't ignore it. At least one industry insider I spoke with brought up the whole Microsoft/Nintendo union; apparently Microsoft -- more than Nintendo -- is interested in some kind of partnership.

There are a few other smaller bits here and there, but I don't feel comfortable posting them yet. Note that while I do trust my sources on this information (they've come through dozens of times in the past), it's still so early on that anything can happen.

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Deepak said:
MS may want to align with N, but N has no reason/incentive to join MS. Why would N do that when atleast they are not losing money on GC (despite less than expected success)? Why would N risk alienate their loyal fans?

Because GC, as you said, is not as successful as N wanted. That is now, what about next gen? Do you really see Nintendo, alone, based on current circumstances, firing back to their glory days?

Allying with MS will do nothing to destory their loyal fans, because, the console is still theirs, i am sure it will still be call Nintendo GameNeX - Powered by "Wintech"( :p ). Nintendo will have full authority to do their games. It just uses MS software and input, and of course a stronger financial backing.

MS will then launch their Homestation slightly later, ala PSX, to compete with Sony set top Cellstation.
 
Microsoft doesn't like sharing. ;) And considering I can't see Nintendo wanting to sell itself outright to MS, they're going to continue on their own way. Not to mention they pretty much have different design philosophies about the whole thing, so they're unlikely get anything but confused by trying to converge.

The only way I can see this offhand is if they've seen cell and know what's upcoming for the PS3 and it scares the BEJEEZUS out of them! And if anything were to scare them to that degree, it's sorta late in the game to just now start working on a console to trump it with a design to encorporate both their strategies. (At least not without serious delays.)

I figure plans have been well along in both camps for a while, and a maneuver like this would be WAYYYY too huge to avoid attention.
 
Microsoft doesn't like sharing.

They might not, but they do like people using their software. ;)
I believe there would not even be an Xbox if only Sony/Nintendo/Sega agreed to use their softOS back then. Well, Sega did partially with WinCE but not enough i guess.
 
IF (in another parallel dimension) Nintendo decided to team up with someone, i would see then going to Sony because of a so-called "national pride" and the fact that they would make much more money with the winner of the last 2 generations of consoles.

still, it will never ever happen.

(although everyone said "never ever ever" when people were saying that Sega would be making games for Sony AND nintendo AND microsoft... so... u never know)
 
chaphack said:
Deepak said:
MS may want to align with N, but N has no reason/incentive to join MS. Why would N do that when atleast they are not losing money on GC (despite less than expected success)? Why would N risk alienate their loyal fans?

Because GC, as you said, is not as successful as N wanted. That is now, what about next gen? Do you really see Nintendo, alone, based on current circumstances, firing back to their glory days?

Allying with MS will do nothing to destory their loyal fans, because, the console is still theirs, i am sure it will still be call Nintendo GameNeX - Powered by "Wintech"( :p ). Nintendo will have full authority to do their games. It just uses MS software and input, and of course a stronger financial backing.

MS will then launch their Homestation slightly later, ala PSX, to compete with Sony set top Cellstation.

as with SEGA anythings possible I suppose, but they are not in the scenario you describe as of yet and there really isn;t anything outside of this wild rumour for us to shown 'any' solid sonclusion yet *draws breath#...whew.

in a word no if they ever leave the hardware business then they are likely ot move to the multiplatform route ala SEGA (that is branching their franchises across platforms).
 
I do think that something like this could happen. The reason is neither Nintendo or MS will be abel to come out on top when competing with Sony imo. MS needs somebody with big game franchises and the abilty to understand the japanese market, Nintendo can help with that. Nintendo need to reevaluate itself outside of japan and MS can help with that.

If you think Nintendo would team with Sony, you're nuts. They don't like each other. I'm sure Sony is respectful of Nintendo since it is also from japan, but deep down nintendo tried to screw them over and that was the reason Sony got into the game market to begin with. Nintendo also got beat out by a new comer to the industry (beat out badly too). to be honest Sony doesn't need Nintendo.

MS talked to Nintendo about this before both xbox and GC released and nitnendo was interested up until MS wanting to use the xbox hardware over what they were designing. MS and Nintendo are actually on good terms even after the sale of Rare.
 
in a word no if they ever leave the hardware business then they are likely ot move to the multiplatform route ala SEGA (that is branching their franchises across platforms).

again, it is not about N moving out of the hardware biz, it is about collaborating. A MS Nintendo hardware software deal. Miyamoto will still have a hardware to call his own, Nintendo will still sell their games exclusively, MS will push about their Win domination further.

If waht Qroach said is true(the goody doody relation between M and N), than the possibility for a Nintendo game only console - GameNeX - and a Microsoft set top box - Homestation - will be higher! :LOL:
 
chaphack said:
again, it is not about N moving out of the hardware biz, it is about collaborating. A MS Nintendo hardware software deal. Miyamoto will still have a hardware to call his own, Nintendo will still sell their games exclusively, MS will push about their Win domination further.

If waht Qroach said is true(the goody doody relation between M and N), than the possibility for a Nintendo game only console - GameNeX - and a Microsoft set top box - Homestation - will be higher! :LOL:


Chap, why r u taking this so seriously?
what's with the "nintendo WILL still sell their games and MS WILL push whatever...."
it's called speculation, and not even an extremely interesting one at that either
 
By all means let's trust an industry "insider", hey doesn't spong have 30 of those?

The letter given to IGN is nothing but garbage, written by a fan who wants to see his stuff on the internet. Not only does the prospect of Nintendo joining MS make no sense, infact there is no evidence to support it, why would Nintendo join the losing console?

If ANYTHING they would join Sony, I think there is more respect between N+S than MS+N IMO.
 
Here's some news..

http://cube.ign.com/articles/426/426078p1.html


June 26, 2003 - Nintendo Co. Ltd. today announced that it had successfully repurchased 7.95 million (or about 5.6% shares outstanding) of its own stock. The company spent $728 million in the re-acquisition.
The move, which was set into motion last June, was made by Nintendo in an attempt to ward off the possibility of a hostile takeover by another company.

More as it becomes available

I wonder what who that other "company" is..
 
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