More Sony first-party PlayStation games coming to PC

If you don't know if components will definitely be used for gaming, don't assume that and present those numbers as related to gaming.

How about everybody just stick to facts.

 

Stick to facts? Amount of gaming GPU's sold. I havent seen any hard facts where i see numbers how many of those arent in use for gaming.

 

Nvidia's move to implement firmware blocking gaming GPUs for being used for crypto-mining should be fact enough.

 

Still no numbers.

 

Indeed. But had these been insignificant numbers, Nvidia would not have bothered. Bear in mind that Nvidia targeted 306 Ti , 3070 and 3080 GPUs only. The low-end GPUs - the affordable ones (incl. the 3060) that are more accessible - were unaffected.

 

Its not all that different from scalpers taking PS5's hostage. At the end, these GPUs used primary for mining will land in gamers hands anyways. Theres a ultra huge demand for these things by both gamers and miners/scalpers, its more production that will be or is the problem.

 

But as the Steam hardware survey shows, they aren't now which disproves the point you were trying to make. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Not all PC gamers use Steam. We cant use Steam to gauge how many % of the sold RTX gpus are being used for.

 

Not all, but the vast majority. Unless you have some data from a reputable source that shows that a statistical significant number of PC gamers are not using Steam?

 

My main PC gaming rig still has not seen a Steam Survey. It's been over 18 years since it has. But the lack of accuracy of Steam Surveys is for another topic.

 

I think Steam survey is a small percentage of the 1.5 billion PC gamers worldwide.

 

Because you think the bilion gamers in China have high end PC maybe the reason Valorant runs on Intel integrated GPU is they want to reach nearly all PC gamers.

And this is not the only big GAAS games with very low hardware requirement to be popular in China or other market where consumer spend less money on PC hardware.

Steam hardware is probably above the average gaming PC if we take all market after this is different in US and Western Europe but I would not be surprise 1060 or 1660 are the most common GPU in this country.

EDIT.
This is maybe the reason Avatar doesn't use box Series S as minimum requirement. It works on GPU without raytracing hardware acceleration like use in Stadia and PC without Turing, Ampere and RDNA 2 GPUs. Amazon Luna support raytracing hardware acceleration.

 

Just using the Steam survey as hard facts is a no-go. There are many reasons why that data isnt all that usefull to gauge RTX gpus used for gaming (or mining AND gaming).

Your assuming things. We safely assume that there are atleast as many PS5 level capable gaming pc's out there as there are PS5s in the hands of gamers.

 

If there are 1.5 billion PC gamers, why are PC games sales so low compared to consoles owner bases that would be < 0.1% of the size?

 

Yes there are 1.5 billion pc gamers out there. Many more then there are Play Station gamers. Il side with the facts here.
Sales are hard to gauge due to digital sales from different stores etc.

 

Even with a console cycle, pc sales are spiking.

Store | Jon Peddie Research

 

I don't assume things Valorant is made by Riot Games and the studio owner is the chinese company Tencent. Out of South Korea, Asia the biggest market is dominated by China where they have mostly lower end PC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valorant

 

The 1.5 billion PC gamers worldwide is obviously just made up BS
one just has to look at some of their other claims

Europe has 668 million paying game consumers of a european population of 747million = ~90% of europeans are paying gamers, yeah right

People actually pay these guys $3000 to come up with these heavily researched reports, that don't even pass the first smell test

 

Yay. The 1.5 billion PC gamer spent $25 each, but based on your numbers PC gamers don't buy a lot of games because if 1% of that 1.5bn bought one game, that game would sell 15m copies. PC games would consistently blow multi-platform console game sales out of the water.

 

If only we had financial statements which showed where most money is made and therefore where most games are played?

Maybe it’s too simplistic an idea….but some folk here can continue to think they are spouting ‘facts’…now where’s that ignore button again!?