Microsoft acquired Activision Blizzard King for $69 Billion on 2023-10-13
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welp we will see if they pass it or if they try to run out the clock.
maybe in time for MS to dump abk and just buy disney
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It's not a "phase 3 review", there is no such concept in the CMA's legislation or process. This is a partial revisit of risk assessments in the phase 2 review following a couple of key changes in circumstances: 1) Sony signing a deal with Microsoft, and 2) Microsoft committing to address CMA concerns on the cloud.
More importantly, this isn't news unless people missed the CMA's published letter on 14 July, which followed the final CAT hearing. We're now just over half-way through that period and nothing new has been released, which is promising!
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nah disney is falling apart at the seams. ITs really sad I loved working for that company a decade ago but its not the same as it was
Silent_Buddha
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That's true, but their PC sales also went into free fall after they removed them from Steam. Sure they got higher margins by keeping that 30%, but they also lost quite a bit of sales. From what I heard from a friend of mine, sales for the PC version dropped by over 50% in the following years.
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So if they sold 10M copies at 60 USD per piece that means there is an income of 60M. 30% goes to steam, so that is 20M to steam. And they end up with 40M.
If they sell 5M copies at 60 USD per piece that means an income of 30M, no steam tax ie they have an income of 30M.
Looks like selling on steam is a no brainer, but is it? When you break down the cost of that 60 USD, does the publisher have a 30% margin to "give away".
I mean if the profit for the publisher on that title is 25% of the 60USD. That means that the publishers share is 15 USD. But steam still wants its 20 usd, is that not -5 USD per copy for the publisher to be on steam?
Now that 25% of 60 USD is just a pie in the sky number from me, but graph it out and see when you break even and make a profit after being levied by the steam tax*.
Also its the publisher taking the risk and not steam, so why should steam have more profits per copy than the publisher? What is a "fair" ratio between the publisher and the storefront.
*steam tax is generic, could be any storefront like MS, Apple, Google, Amazon etc etc
If they sell 5M copies at 60 USD per piece that means an income of 30M, no steam tax ie they have an income of 30M.
Looks like selling on steam is a no brainer, but is it? When you break down the cost of that 60 USD, does the publisher have a 30% margin to "give away".
I mean if the profit for the publisher on that title is 25% of the 60USD. That means that the publishers share is 15 USD. But steam still wants its 20 usd, is that not -5 USD per copy for the publisher to be on steam?
Now that 25% of 60 USD is just a pie in the sky number from me, but graph it out and see when you break even and make a profit after being levied by the steam tax*.
Also its the publisher taking the risk and not steam, so why should steam have more profits per copy than the publisher? What is a "fair" ratio between the publisher and the storefront.
*steam tax is generic, could be any storefront like MS, Apple, Google, Amazon etc etc
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Silent_Buddha
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This doesn't change things much, but 30% of 60 million is 18 million.
You're thinking of 1/3 of 60 million. Close, but not quite the same.Other things to consider for a game like COD. It's a multiplayer competitive game, so the online community is key to keeping players interested and new players buying it as the years go on. It's another reason that the PC version went into a death spiral after it was removed from Steam and before cross-play with consoles was enabled. Smaller community meant less interest. Less interest meant longer queue times. Longer queue times meant less people playing. Less people playing meant less interest. And that death spiral was getting worse and worse, only cross play managed to revive COD on PC to an extent. Putting it back on Steam seems to have fully revived it on PC.
Having it on other storefronts would help a bit as well, but at least with it being on the largest storefront, you're getting that large influx of players that weren't interested in buying it on a company storefront.
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SB
Well there it is
But I don't think they are selling off the rights. They are just licensing them as otherwise it would conflict with a bunch of other deals MS has made
Can't find out if its in all markets or just UK
But I guess the next step for MS is to close down abk studios and move them over to bethesda or obsidian to get around the new ABK stuff.
As far as I understand it it's the whole EEA not only UK.
www.gov.uk
Microsoft / Activision Blizzard (ex-cloud streaming rights) merger inquiry
The CMA is investigating the anticipated acquisition by Microsoft Corporation of Activision Blizzard, Inc. (excluding Activision Blizzard, Inc.’s non-EEA cloud streaming rights).
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Seems odd that the UK is able to force it through for all of Europe. They aren't part of the EU anymore.
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Microsoft, Activision to sell streaming rights to secure biggest video gaming deal
"Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard will sell its streaming rights to Ubisoft Entertainment in a fresh attempt to win approval from Britain's anti-trust regulator for its $69 billion sale to Microsoft .
www.reuters.com
So it really doesn't speak about anything outside of Europe and UK.... guess we need to wait for clearer reporting
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maybe ? not sure how the cloud only rights to these games are going to bolster ubi+
Will abk games still be on xcloud ?
What happens if another company tries to purchase ubisoft. I'd assume it only be tencent since they own 49% but is there a clause in it for Ms to buy back the rights before its sold ?
Lots of details to still find out.
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One questions for those who may understand a bit more about this than I do.
Apparently the CMA has putted an end to the ABK purchase, and the deal is dead forever.
However, Microsoft submited a new deal, wich is now beeing analised and on Phase 1.
This according to www.gov.uk.
My question is: If the deal is diferent, and the previous one is dead, shouldn´t all regulators across the world analise it?
After all, even if at Microsofts eyes, and even on CMAs eyes the deal seems better for thirds, and if all previous arrangements are kept, it is a different deal, and some parts, even if not willingly may create damages on thirds on some markets.
On my low undertanding on how this should work, if the other deal is dead... all comes back to square one! And all regulators analise things for their own market.
Apparently the CMA has putted an end to the ABK purchase, and the deal is dead forever.
However, Microsoft submited a new deal, wich is now beeing analised and on Phase 1.
This according to www.gov.uk.
My question is: If the deal is diferent, and the previous one is dead, shouldn´t all regulators across the world analise it?
After all, even if at Microsofts eyes, and even on CMAs eyes the deal seems better for thirds, and if all previous arrangements are kept, it is a different deal, and some parts, even if not willingly may create damages on thirds on some markets.
On my low undertanding on how this should work, if the other deal is dead... all comes back to square one! And all regulators analise things for their own market.
As part of this arrangement; Ubisoft still has to comply to the agreements MS made to EC. So technically this would only apply to UK, the EC one is global IIRC.Seems odd that the UK is able to force it through for all of Europe. They aren't part of the EU anymore.
Microsoft, Activision to sell streaming rights to secure biggest video gaming deal
"Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard will sell its streaming rights to Ubisoft Entertainment in a fresh attempt to win approval from Britain's anti-trust regulator for its $69 billion sale to Microsoft .
So it really doesn't speak about anything outside of Europe and UK.... guess we need to wait for clearer reporting
Microsoft and Activision Blizzard Restructure Proposed Acquisition
In January 2022, Microsoft announced the proposed acquisition of Activision Blizzard, Inc., to advance our goal to bring more creative and innovative games to players everywhere and on any device. Today, we are taking another important step regarding this transaction.
blogs.microsoft.com
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