Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain & Ground Zeroes
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COPS N RAPPERS
Regular
The Xbox DLC is super cool but makes no sense.....A man from the past giving a man from the future a weapon he never gets to see in his life. It's still nice to see the high LOD model of Raiden being used none the less.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
Is it confirmed 1080/60fps? If yes, My interest had piqued. OTOH, i don't see the point in buying a prologue. It will leave me unsatisfied simply because of its length and will spoil my first experience of MGSV later.
Xbox One won't be available in Japan when GZ is released so it's going to be quire easy to go for the PS4 version.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
I meant it will spoil my first Wow feeling. When I actually get MGSV later, the full one, it will feel like "been there, done that". The first experience of a world carries me quite far into a game. Don't want to lose that excitement on this small demo.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
I didn't know we had destruction in this game.
....and another one showing differences even with the cloud power on X1.
from here : http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/metal...ghtly_better_on_ps4_than_xbox_one_kojima.html
Sigfried1977
Legend
Especially if the first part is like the tanker and the second part ends being some sort of ginormous version of Bigshell.
That said, I'm kinda tired of open word games and open word game jankiness. Metal Gear is supposed to be tight. It was always tight. And in terms of gameplay, it was never about breadth. It was always about depth. MGS4 was more or less a corridor. But it was a corridor I could play in in hundreds of different ways. Most open world games on the other hand just waste tons of real estate so you can do the shame shit over and over in lots of different places.
RenegadeRocks
Legend
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Its just the first mission, a prologue. Its bound to be short. They have thrown in various side missions in the same level to spend time in. The main mission, is just ONE. I don't see why ppl want to buy this.if it was for $10 or$15, maybe.
What is "TPP" ?
@sigfried: i agree about the open world shallowness of games. Wonder if MGS will retain its depth. Its Kojima, I think he will make sure it still stays a MGS.
OTOH, I am not happy with the see-through-walls tagging of enemies either. Was playing Metro Last Light and that game does stealth the way it should be: with no aids at all! Rely on ur eyes and ears and make your way through. What is the point of a stealth"gameplay" when u can see through walls? Where is the 'game', then? Playing LOU without Listen mode was a fantastic experience ! Atleast they catered to it by giving me that option but most games don't.
Its what made me lose interest in AC4. The treasure chests and other collectibles: I ain't really 'finding' them, they are all already there on my map, my job is just to fetch them like an obedient dog ! There's the chest, just go there and feel good about finding it ! Where is the fun of secret areas or of stumbling upon treasures or of actually exploring the world and discovering something ? Games have turned into an exercise of instant-self-rewarding, not the brain tingling, absorbing overcoming of challenges they used to be. Look at the new Thief, everyhting marked in brilliant blue for you to 'discover' !
I understand that with gfx getting so busy with details, its hard to spot enemies and things, but that can be overcome with correct art choices. Make the enemy's colour pallete such that they stand out in environments, give them a distinguishing silhoutte. same for objects, give them a striking appearance instead of making them glow everywhere.
Bah... I am sure Kojima will be the least spoilsport, so shouldn't be spoiling this thread, but devs need to look into these issues.
Its just the first mission, a prologue. Its bound to be short. They have thrown in various side missions in the same level to spend time in. The main mission, is just ONE. I don't see why ppl want to buy this.if it was for $10 or$15, maybe.
What is "TPP" ?
@sigfried: i agree about the open world shallowness of games. Wonder if MGS will retain its depth. Its Kojima, I think he will make sure it still stays a MGS.
OTOH, I am not happy with the see-through-walls tagging of enemies either. Was playing Metro Last Light and that game does stealth the way it should be: with no aids at all! Rely on ur eyes and ears and make your way through. What is the point of a stealth"gameplay" when u can see through walls? Where is the 'game', then? Playing LOU without Listen mode was a fantastic experience ! Atleast they catered to it by giving me that option but most games don't.
Its what made me lose interest in AC4. The treasure chests and other collectibles: I ain't really 'finding' them, they are all already there on my map, my job is just to fetch them like an obedient dog ! There's the chest, just go there and feel good about finding it ! Where is the fun of secret areas or of stumbling upon treasures or of actually exploring the world and discovering something ? Games have turned into an exercise of instant-self-rewarding, not the brain tingling, absorbing overcoming of challenges they used to be. Look at the new Thief, everyhting marked in brilliant blue for you to 'discover' !
I understand that with gfx getting so busy with details, its hard to spot enemies and things, but that can be overcome with correct art choices. Make the enemy's colour pallete such that they stand out in environments, give them a distinguishing silhoutte. same for objects, give them a striking appearance instead of making them glow everywhere.
Bah... I am sure Kojima will be the least spoilsport, so shouldn't be spoiling this thread, but devs need to look into these issues.
yeah, sounds like whining, but its legit from my point of view.
Sigfried1977
Legend
Dishonored did it well. And yeah, the busy gfx are indeed a problem in lots of games. Play Batman without detective mode: you simply cannot see shit most of the time. Metal Gear shouldn't have these problems though. The art in these games always read very well on screen. (unless it wasn't meant to)
The Phantom Pain. GI has lots of images of it.
It's really nice seeing Big Boss in truly open environments [for example ducking to hide behind some sheeps].
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RenegadeRocks
Legend
The Phantom Pain. GI has lots of images of it.
It's really nice seeing Big Boss in truly open environments [for example ducking to hide behind some sheeps].
oh Wow
! WHen do we the scans come out ?Monitor this page, there will be reveals during entire February
http://www.gameinformer.com/p/mgsv.aspx
http://www.gameinformer.com/p/mgsv.aspx
COPS N RAPPERS
Regular
Still wondering about the PC version, the watermark comes and goes on their posters.
[original]
[Some time ago]
[GT Interview] Kojima -
I'm probably expecting this to be in the same manner as Metal gear rising on PC, bundled all together with dlc and minor improvements.
[original]
[Some time ago]
[GT Interview] Kojima -
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/...v--the-phantom-pain-e3-2013--kojima-interview
I'm probably expecting this to be in the same manner as Metal gear rising on PC, bundled all together with dlc and minor improvements.
lol ground zero is 90mins of gameplay for $40. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=765365
That's a worse value than the short playtime of mgs4.
Maybe Kojima doesn't want player interaction to mess with his shitty scripts and storytelling?
That's a worse value than the short playtime of mgs4.
Maybe Kojima doesn't want player interaction to mess with his shitty scripts and storytelling?
One of the two shittiest game series has found a new way to rip people off. I'm not surprised. At least I'd only have to suffer through 90 minutes of convoluted elementary-school storytelling instead of endless hours of cutscene garbage. Hideo Kojima is one of the worst writers in the history of games. If someone put a gun to my head, I'd sit through it for $40 rather than sit through MGS4 for $60.
