I explicitly said "in relation", stop reading stuff into it that's not there.
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I explicitly said "in relation", stop reading stuff into it that's not there.
dizietsma: don't worry, our focus is still power. As for what will come, I can't talk about it of course.
The Daimler series is developing a 4-cyl S-class hybrid, that info is already out there in the mags.
Sonic: I don't know anything more but rumours, from what I gather our former big boss had a brilliant idea of making Daimler a ultra-global-player with many brands and covering all markets. It wasn't only Chrysler, it was also Mitsubishi (went down the drain even worse) and Hyundai. But that's all been sold off since Mr. Z is in charge, thankfully. He does the job really well as opposed to the stupid arse Schremp.
That Alligator thing is new to me, dunno nothing about it. AMG is definitely not involved there.
The Daimler series is developing a 4-cyl S-class hybrid, that info is already out there in the mags.
Sonic: I don't know anything more but rumours, from what I gather our former big boss had a brilliant idea of making Daimler a ultra-global-player with many brands and covering all markets. It wasn't only Chrysler, it was also Mitsubishi (went down the drain even worse) and Hyundai. But that's all been sold off since Mr. Z is in charge, thankfully. He does the job really well as opposed to the stupid arse Schremp.
That Alligator thing is new to me, dunno nothing about it. AMG is definitely not involved there.
Saw that posted awhile back, I believe on Dailytech.
Really cool. I wonder if it will ever be anything more than a museum piece.
Freak'n Big Panda
Regular
looks like a vagina
Just curious, what do you think about this concept? 4-cyl hybrid and environment-friendly is of course the right way, but how do you like the looks?
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/mercedes_f700.html
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/mercedes_f700.html
It's still a study, so I have no idea about those details. It should have very low consumption according to rumours and the looks can always change. I know that they indeed are developing that 4-cyl engine seriously, so it will come in some models for sure regardless of this car.
tongue_of_colicab
Veteran
Which makes it twice as bad. I seriously dont know what up with people who buy these so called enviromental friendly cars. Could someone please explain me what is so enviromental friendly about a car that needs tons of steel, plastic, chemicals (and now extra chemicals for the battery) and other stuff just to be produced?
If they want to make something eco friendly, or maybe they should call it not-that-bad-for-the-enviroment, they should go back to the old days and start building cars without all the heavy luxery and build cars that are light and dont use extra power with things like aircon. But hey, ofcourse people dont want to sweat away anymore.
Its going to be the same with that merc if they build it. Its not going to be eco friendly just like the Prius isnt eco friendly. A BMW 5 series uses less petrol, even in city use (a english newspaper tested this) because it doesnt have some small engine that needs to work at like 100% all the time because its needs to haul 1700+kg to 100kmph.
Everybody that buys a so called eco friendly car should have TWAT tattood on his/her forhead.
I like the design of that merc though, The doors are awsome. I dont understand why cars dont have those doors anymore btw. Suicide doors are alot more practical and they look cool as a extra.
@XXX: I have a question, you said you guys test cars like the 599 etc. But how do these cars get purchased? I mean, I doubt Ferrari really cares about selling MB a car as they got 1+ year waitinglists most of the time so as soon as they see a bill for MB arnt they like screw them and have them wait forever? or do they get bought under a private name?
You're calling me a twat eh?
I was required to get a company car for my work. I waited until I was 30 before getting my driver's licence, and before that always traveled by public transport and (folding)bike. So right there I've been pretty environmentally friendly.
Of the cars that I could lease, the Prius is by far the least unfriendly to the environment. Of all the cars my colleagues have leased, ditto. It's not just the decent mileage (I always manage 1:20 over the period of 40-43 liters), except when it's really cold out when combined with short trips - I so far only needed it for about 15.000km last year, taking the trains whenever possible and financially more appropriate - which is often, as you can work in the train). That article on the BMW-5 series you quoted, well, we can discuss it if you want, but even if it was correct (which it isn't), I couldn't afford that car. Heck, a 1-series is already far more expensive to lease.
The Prius beats most cars both on the whole process from production to recycling, and what comes out of the exhaust. The latter is relevant to me - I live in Maastricht, a city with a couple of streets in the top ten most fine-dust polluted streets in the Netherlands, and it's a pleasant feeling that I don't contribute to that (really not, the Prius has zero emission of fine-dust particles, extremely low on most of the other stuff, including the obvious CO2 emissions which are now rewarded through taxes)
Apart from all these things, it's also an extremely pleasant car to drive, being zippy enough (no shifting together with a combined 115hp), very silent (you mostly listen to other cars when you're standing still), roomy enough to bring 3 colleagues along comfortably (we always car-pool whenever we go somewhere in a larger group) and in our overcrowded traffic no shifting is also very pleasant.
If all this makes me a twat in your eyes, then fine. But then I wish there were more twats in the world.
I was required to get a company car for my work. I waited until I was 30 before getting my driver's licence, and before that always traveled by public transport and (folding)bike. So right there I've been pretty environmentally friendly.
Of the cars that I could lease, the Prius is by far the least unfriendly to the environment. Of all the cars my colleagues have leased, ditto. It's not just the decent mileage (I always manage 1:20 over the period of 40-43 liters), except when it's really cold out when combined with short trips - I so far only needed it for about 15.000km last year, taking the trains whenever possible and financially more appropriate - which is often, as you can work in the train). That article on the BMW-5 series you quoted, well, we can discuss it if you want, but even if it was correct (which it isn't), I couldn't afford that car. Heck, a 1-series is already far more expensive to lease.
The Prius beats most cars both on the whole process from production to recycling, and what comes out of the exhaust. The latter is relevant to me - I live in Maastricht, a city with a couple of streets in the top ten most fine-dust polluted streets in the Netherlands, and it's a pleasant feeling that I don't contribute to that (really not, the Prius has zero emission of fine-dust particles, extremely low on most of the other stuff, including the obvious CO2 emissions which are now rewarded through taxes)
Apart from all these things, it's also an extremely pleasant car to drive, being zippy enough (no shifting together with a combined 115hp), very silent (you mostly listen to other cars when you're standing still), roomy enough to bring 3 colleagues along comfortably (we always car-pool whenever we go somewhere in a larger group) and in our overcrowded traffic no shifting is also very pleasant.
If all this makes me a twat in your eyes, then fine. But then I wish there were more twats in the world.
DuckThor Evil
Legend
I have to agree that whatever article has 5-series consuming less than Prius is a friggin joke! Especially driving in the city. In normal driving you don't need to push that Prius engine even close to 100%
Top Gear had a test where Prius consumed more fuel under full throttle than M3 driving the same speed as the Prius, but that has no relation to real world scenarios what so ever.
Top Gear had a test where Prius consumed more fuel under full throttle than M3 driving the same speed as the Prius, but that has no relation to real world scenarios what so ever.
It used to be done like that before, but at some point everyone realized it makes no sense. We all exchange cars with each other for testing as soon as they come out, or the company simply buys them directly. No tricks needed.
your dutch! how dare you not ride a bike
And where the hell do you get them
Height of fashion in Amsterdam
Hey like any good Dutch citizen, I do ride a bike. In fact, our household has two folding bikes (brompton), one men's bike, one woman's bike, and one 'mother's' bike which has a special holder not only for toddler carrying, but even for one of those baby carrier things that you also use in cars. I used to have a proper racing bike as well, and maybe will have one again next summer.
On the other hand I've never had wooden shoes, or smoked a joint for that matter (or smoked at all), and I haven't been properly drunk (which here is pass out puking ) and only properly inebriated (problems walking straight) about three times in my life. I also don't drink coffee. So that sort of disqualifies me as being a regular Dutch guy.
On the other hand I've never had wooden shoes, or smoked a joint for that matter (or smoked at all), and I haven't been properly drunk (which here is pass out puking
) and only properly inebriated (problems walking straight) about three times in my life. I also don't drink coffee. So that sort of disqualifies me as being a regular Dutch guy. tongue_of_colicab
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You're calling me a twat eh?
I was required to get a company car for my work. I waited until I was 30 before getting my driver's licence, and before that always traveled by public transport and (folding)bike. So right there I've been pretty environmentally friendly.
Of the cars that I could lease, the Prius is by far the least unfriendly to the environment. Of all the cars my colleagues have leased, ditto. It's not just the decent mileage (I always manage 1:20 over the period of 40-43 liters), except when it's really cold out when combined with short trips - I so far only needed it for about 15.000km last year, taking the trains whenever possible and financially more appropriate - which is often, as you can work in the train). That article on the BMW-5 series you quoted, well, we can discuss it if you want, but even if it was correct (which it isn't), I couldn't afford that car. Heck, a 1-series is already far more expensive to lease.
The Prius beats most cars both on the whole process from production to recycling, and what comes out of the exhaust. The latter is relevant to me - I live in Maastricht, a city with a couple of streets in the top ten most fine-dust polluted streets in the Netherlands, and it's a pleasant feeling that I don't contribute to that (really not, the Prius has zero emission of fine-dust particles, extremely low on most of the other stuff, including the obvious CO2 emissions which are now rewarded through taxes)
Apart from all these things, it's also an extremely pleasant car to drive, being zippy enough (no shifting together with a combined 115hp), very silent (you mostly listen to other cars when you're standing still), roomy enough to bring 3 colleagues along comfortably (we always car-pool whenever we go somewhere in a larger group) and in our overcrowded traffic no shifting is also very pleasant.
If all this makes me a twat in your eyes, then fine. But then I wish there were more twats in the world.
Thats great. Atleast when I move to Maastricht next week I'll know that thanks to you the street will be a little less polluted. Send me your adres and I'll bring over a cake
But what about just using your bike all the time in Maastricht? (I need I will, living damn 8km from school, only room I could get for sure...).
Still, I think its bullocks. Your a human. Your not kind to the inviroment, not at all. Driving a prius really doesnt make much of a difference over a life time. All it does in my opinion is making you look like ''oh im saving the planet'' kind of thing while you really arnt.
If you want to do something about the inviroment buy a piece of rainforrest, atleast that will have some use.
So when you make a new car that basically gets shipped to a number of other brands right away and they do the same?