Japan Sales Thread *renamed

But does it really matter? I mean we are talking about a product that is supposed to sell into ten's of millions. Whether you sell 1k, 2k or 2.5k in Japan, its still worthless and shows that even a few Japanese oriented games cant change how things are going.

Personally I think releasing a shitload of anime related and typicall Japanese games we dont even get to see over here will do alot more for x360 sales than those one or 2 big titles.
 
tongue_of_colicab said:
But does it really matter? I mean we are talking about a product that is supposed to sell into ten's of millions. Whether you sell 1k, 2k or 2.5k in Japan, its still worthless and shows that even a few Japanese oriented games cant change how things are going.

Personally I think releasing a shitload of anime related and typicall Japanese games we dont even get to see over here will do alot more for x360 sales than those one or 2 big titles.
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I think it matters somewhat, 360 is not 'supposed' to sell 10million units in JPN, hell if it sold 1million that would be a great success considering the cirumstances, and would also make it an even more viable platform for some Japanese releases, which is the main goal.

It's already sold ~400k. If they can get up to the range of 5k/week, that would bring them around 300k/year, which would see them hit 1million somewhere in 2009.

Essentially, if MS can just make sure that sales keep increasing, they should be able to reach 1million installed without too much problem, and easily beat the 530k sold by XB1. It'll probably be a long slow trudge, but it does have some sustained momentum, however small.
 
StefanS said:
Actually, the DS hasn't reached PS2 sales levels yet. It will only have caught up in March 2008. What happens afterwards is the real litmus test with regard to expanding audience in Japan. This is going to be very interesting.
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I think it'll surpass PS2 LTD sales before the end of the year.
 
scooby_dooby said:
What did BD do when it first launched??

Hmm...if this shows a similar jump to BD in HW sales...we could be lookin at a week where 360 outsells PS3, fairly meaningless but certainly one for the "Who'da thunk it" category.
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The week BD came out, X360 sold 20+ thusand consoles.

BD sold about 80k first week if my memory is correct
 
6/11-6/17 Media Create Japan hardware courtesy Cheesemeister GAF


Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. NDS - 118,684 | 117,228 | 3,650,120 | 17,655,799
2. WII - 65,521 | 64,529 | 1,815,351 | 2,734,994
3. PSP - 33,359 | 24,711 | 1,011,858 | 5,543,987
4. PS2 - 11,974 | 11,097 | 392,095 | 20,546,954
5. PS3 - 9,481 | 8,776 | 471,436 | 928,994
6. 360 - 7,583 | 2,533 | 112,060 | 376,762
7. GBA - 867 | 799 | 39,818 | 15,337,897
8. NGC - 223 | 167 | 8,226 | 4,177,694



So Trusty Bell did well, but did not propel 360 over PS3 as some had expected. However, Sigma shifted precious little PS3 hardware.

DSL sales seems to have steadied around 120k. I've heard they're not sold out anymore. PSP sales also remain pretty good, relatively.

Oh btw, I have heard some vgchartz posters claim that Oblivion 360 is pre-ordering really well and may outsell Trusty.

The 360 seems to have a rabid game buying base in Japan as elsewhere, such that it may actually be a better place to launch software in Japan right now.
 
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Rangers said:
So Trusty Bell did well, but did not propel 360 over PS3 as some had expected. However, Sigma shifted precious little PS3 hardware.
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The additional 5 thousand units this week is thanks to the Trusty Bell bundle pack advertising push. Ninja Gaiden was not part of any bundle pack advertising so it didn't really help move many more new units.

But next week Hot Shots Golf 5 will be out and that comes with a PS3 bundle co-marketing package so that will probably help more than Sigma. Also Folk Soul just came out yesterday, I wonder if that will make the charts.

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And it is an awesome lookin box
 
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Japanese guy at vgchartz sez:

Other infos

Preorders of Oblivion (360) is good. It may be possible to sell at first-week more than trusty bell (Shinobi)

Bundled EG5 is released at 7/26
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EG5=Everyone's Golf=Hot Shot Golf. So I guess the bundle isn't til the 26.
 
First day sales

1ST DAY SALES

NDS Itadaki Street DS - 70k
PS2 Growlanser VI - ~30k
PS2 Mana Khemia - <20k
Wii Hajime no Ippo Revolution - ~10k
360 Saints Row - ~7k
PS3 Folks Soul - ~7k
 
Media Create Sales 6/18 - 6/24 (From Cheesemeister Neogaf)



01./00. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 302,887 / NEW
02./00. [NDS] Itadaki Street DS (Square-Enix) - 148,876 / NEW
03./01. [NDS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 44,138 / 265,000
04./04. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 33,998 / 1,756,000
05./00. [PS2] Growlanser VI (Atlus) - 27,254 / NEW
06./00. [WII] Hajime no Ippo: Revolution (AQ Interactive) - 25,499 / NEW
07./06. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 22,206 / 1,421,000
08./00. [PS2] Mana-Khemia: The School Alchemists (Gust) - 20,963 / NEW
09./05. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 20,395 / 4,395,000
10./07. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 18,129 / 4,557,000

11./00. [PS3] FolksSoul (Sony)
12./08. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo)
13./09. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo)
14./13. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
15./11. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5)
16./10. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
17./16. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
18./00. [NDS] Welcome for NANA Live Staff Applicants (Konami)
19./03. [PS3] Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Tecmo)
20./37. [NDS] Middle School English Vocabulary Target 1800 DS (IE Institute)
21./18. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo)
22./15. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson)
23./17. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo)
24./19. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
25./00. [360] Saints Row (THQ Japan)
26./21. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute)
27./30. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon)
28./27. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco)
29./00. [NDS] Cooking Navi: All-Empire Hotel (Koei)
30./20. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
28./27. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco)
29./00. [NDS] Cooking Navi: All-Empire Hotel (Koei)
30./20. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
31./31. [WII] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
32./12. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (D3 Publisher)
33./25. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
34./34. [NDS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon)
35./02. [360] Trusty Bell ~Chopin's Dream~ (Bandai-Namco)
36./26. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom)
37./00. [PSP] Smash Court Tennis 3 (Bandai-Namco)
38./32. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
39./29. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo)
40./22. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (Bandai-Namco)
41./33. [NDS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.)
42./24. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix)
43./36. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo)
44./42. [NDS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco)
45./28. [WII] Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace (Marvelous Interactive)
46./23. [PSP] Final Fantasy II (Square-Enix)
47./35. [NDS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix)
48./39. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix)
49./14. [PS3] Call of Duty 3 (Spike)
50./38. [NDS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo)

NDS - 30
WII - 7
PSP - 5
PS2 - 3
PS3 - 3
360 - 2

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Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   163,918 |   118,684 | 3,814,038 | 17,819,717
2. WII   -    65,582 |    65,521 | 1,880,933 |  2,800,576
3. PSP   -    32,984 |    33,359 | 1,044,842 |  5,576,971
4. PS2   -    11,962 |    11,974 |   404,057 | 20,558,916
5. PS3   -     9,581 |     9,481 |   481,017 |    938,575
6. 360   -     3,369 |     7,583 |   115,429 |    380,131
7. GBA   -       414 |       867 |    40,232 | 15,338,311
8. NGC   -        82 |       223 |     8,308 |  4,177,776
 
Media Create Sales 6/25 - 7/1



01./00. [PS2] Super Robot Wars: Original Generations (Banpresto) - 346,000 / NEW
02./01. [NDS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo) - 137,000 / 439,000
03./02. [NDS] Itadaki Street DS (Square-Enix) - 60,000 / 209,000
04./03. [NDS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 49,000 / 314,000
05./00. [PSP] Ratchet & Clank: Going Mobile (Sony) - 39,000 / NEW
06./04. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 37,000 / 1,792,000
07./00. [PS2] Tales of Fandom, Vol. 2: Luke Version (Bandai-Namco) - 34,000 / NEW
08./00. [PS2] Tales of Fandom, Vol. 2: Tia Version (Bandai-Namco) - 30,000 / NEW
09./00. [WII] Donkey Kong Jet (Nintendo) - 30,000 / NEW
10./00. [NDS] Listen! Write! Increase Vocabulary! Initial English Training (Benesse) - 30,000 / NEW

11./00. [NDS] Home Teacher Hitman Reborn! DS: Flame Rumble (Takara-Tomy)
12./07. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
13./00. [NDS] Reading Training (Benesse)
14./09. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo)
15./10. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
16./00. [PS2] Neon Genesis Evangelion: Battle Orchestra (Broccoli)
17./14. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
18./13. [NDS] More English Training (Nintendo)
19./00. [PS3] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas (Ubi Soft)
20./12. [NDS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo)
21./16. [NDS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
22./17. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
23./15. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5)
24./00. [NDS] Legend of the River King (Marvelous Interactive)
25./00. [PS2] Baroque (Sting)
26./21. [NDS] English Training (Nintendo)
27./06. [WII] Hajime no Ippo: Revolution (AQ Interactive)
28./22. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson)
29./23. [NDS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo)
30./26. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute)
31./30. [NDS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
32./27. [NDS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokémon)
33./28. [NDS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco)
34./24. [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
35./31. [WII] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
36./34. [NDS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokémon)
37./00. [PS2] Buso Renkin: Welcome to Papyon Park (Marvelous Interactive)
38./00. [NDS] Detailed Japanese History B Total Training (Bandai-Namco)
39./36. [NDS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom)
40./08. [PS2] Mana-Khemia: The School Alchemists (Gust)
41./19. [PS3] Ninja Gaiden Sigma (Tecmo)
42./39. [NDS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo)
43./43. [NDS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo)
44./33. [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
45./11. [PS3] FolksSoul (Sony)
46./05. [PS2] Growlanser VI (Atlus)
47./38. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
48./00. [PS2] Tales of the Abyss (Bandai-Namco)
49./32. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (D3 Publisher)
50./41. [NDS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.)

NDS - 28
PS2 - 10
WII - 7
PS3 - 3
PSP - 2

Hardware
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Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -   157,480 |   163,918 | 3,971,518 | 17,977,197
2. WII   -    73,919 |    65,582 | 1,954,852 |  2,874,495
3. PSP   -    38,305 |    32,984 | 1,083,147 |  5,615,276
4. PS2   -    16,316 |    11,962 |   420,373 | 20,575,232
5. PS3   -    11,914 |     9,581 |   492,931 |    950,489
6. 360   -     3,154 |     3,369 |   118,583 |    383,285
7. GBA   -       572 |       414 |    40,804 | 15,338,883
8. NGC   -       111 |        82 |     8,419 |  4,177,887




 Wii comparisons: At 31 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 119.2 weeks (December 22, 2003), where GBA was at 22.3 weeks (August 21, 2001), where DS was at 37.0 weeks (August 13, 2005), where PS2 was at 35.0 weeks (October 29, 2000), and where PSP was at 58.0 weeks (January 15, 2006).

PS3 comparisons: At 34 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 3.8 weeks (March 24, 2000), where PSP was at 12.5 weeks (March 2, 2005), where GCN was at 16.2 weeks (December 31, 2001), and where Wii was at 5.2 weeks (January 1, 2007).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 13.9 / 86.1, PS3's highest in a month. This brings the total shares to 24.8 / 75.2; Wii hits the PS3 triple point. Due to PS3's higher-than-usual week, if Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up to Wii in 161.5 weeks (August 4, 2010).

PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, PS2 and DS meet up in 18.4 weeks (November 6, 2007) at ~20.88 million apiece.

Total hardware sales for the year have passed 8 million. At 26 weeks, this surpasses the totals reached for 2003 and 2004, and passes 8 million much quicker than 2005 (50 weeks) or 2006 (37 weeks).

From Cvxfreak, JoshuaJslone neogaf
 
This is Japan related but not about sales. Times online UK is reporting that Japanese prime-time TV is facing stiff competition from the Wii. It's an interesting turn of events:
Japanese desert prime-time TV to play on their Nintendo Wii

The Nintendo Wii – the games console that is outselling Sony’s Play-Station 3 by three to one – has begun to “stealâ€￾ prime-time television audiences in Japan.

The Nintendo machine, which was specifically designed to repackage video gaming as a family-oriented affair, is believed by media insiders to be responsible for an unprecedented decline in early-evening viewing figures for Japan’s top-rated shows.

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From Magic Box:

- Here are the latest Japanese console hardware sales for the week of July 2 - 8, 2007:

1. NDS Lite - 139,271 [4,108,498] units
2. Wii - 75,279 [2,030,031] units
3. PSP - 32,946 [1,116,093] units
4. PlayStation 2 - 14,120 [434,493] units
5. PlayStation 3 - 12,691 [505,622] units
6. Xbox 360 - 2,370 [120,953] units
7. GB Micro - 340 [22,116] units
8. GBA SP - 261 [18,900] units
9. GameCube - 174 [8,593] units
10. NDS - 15 [2,306] units
11. GBA - 0 [749] units

- Here are the latest Japanese console software sales for the week of July 2 - 8, 2007:

1. Zelda no Densetsu: Mugen no Sunadokei (NDS, Nintendo) - 75,000 [514,000] units
2. Chikasete! Chibi-Robo! (NDS, Nintendo) - 45,000 units
3. Super Robot Taisen Original Generations (PS2, Banpresto) - 43,000 [388,000] units
4. Miru Chikara o Jissen de Kitaeru: DS Ganryoku Training (NDS, Nintendo) - 42,000 [356,000] units
5. Wii Sports (Wii, Nintendo) - 33,000 [1,826,000] units
6. Itadaki Street DS (NDS, Square Enix) - 30,000 [239,000] units
7. Boku no Natsuyasumi 3 (PS3, Sony) - 29,000 units
8. Hajimete no Wii [Wii Play] (Wii, Nintendo) - 20,000 [1,465,000] units
9. Kawashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Motto Nouo Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo) - 19,000 [4,436,000] units
10. New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo) - 18,000 [4,595,000] units
 
Todd33 said:
PS3 Hits 1 Million in Japan
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/805/805957p1.html



I think Moore should have taken Tony Snow's job.
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Actually, Moore made a very salient and valid point.

Sony must have designed their business model around large success in Japan, which they are not seeing. MS on the other hand, never assumed they would sell big numbers there.

So, Sony's relative lack of success in Japan is much more meaningful to them as company, than it is to MS.

And here's the context of the quote, (were Moore implies that he is also failing btw):

I built a business plan [for Japan], but I don't think my expectations in Japan were anything close to what Sony's expectations are. They are failing. They're missing their plan by much more than I'm missing my plan.
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Pretty much speaking the truth, not sure how you can disagree with that.
 
Totally true. They for sure expected to have sold 3 million in Japan by now. After all they were telling people they could sell 5 million with no software.
 
Todd33 said:
What do you call it when you sell half as much with a year head start?
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For MS in Japan, compared to Sony??

I call that unimaginable 12 months ago...


What do you call it when you go from being market leader, to being outsold 6:1 in the span of 6 months??

It's clear that Sony is doing much worse in Japan, relatively, than MS is. And if you can't see that, then you need to drop ALL pretenses of being objective and admit you wear Sony blinders...
 
scooby_dooby said:
What do you call it when you go from being market leader, to being outsold 6:1 in the span of 6 months??
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Just to be precise on this point, though Wii trounces PS3's weekly sales at the moment, both worldwide (taking a 9 million Wii to 3 million PS3, which were the last sorts of figures I've seen) and in Japan, Wii's sold about 3x as many units as PS3. If things don't change, a 6:1 or worse ratio will happen. But it's not there yet, and at some point something is going to change, for better or worse or Sony.
 
scooby_dooby said:
For MS in Japan, compared to Sony??

I call that unimaginable 12 months ago...


What do you call it when you go from being market leader, to being outsold 6:1 in the span of 6 months??

It's clear that Sony is doing much worse in Japan, relatively, than MS is. And if you can't see that, then you need to drop ALL pretenses of being objective and admit you wear Sony blinders...
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Honestly I don't care about the sales numbers, I was more interested in the statement. I thought these companies had a friendly rivalry and didn't talk trash. It was also highly ironic considering MS's Japan numbers, if Nintendo had said it it would make much more sense.

I'd like these PR guys much more if they didn't act like people running for a political office and were a bit more friendly and honest.
 
Todd33 said:
Honestly I don't care about the sales numbers, I was more interested in the statement. I thought these companies had a friendly rivalry and didn't talk trash.
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Sony and MS have been trash-talking each other for the past couple of years! It even starter to affect Nintendo, who on the whole had been above it.
 
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