Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

[bagofsuck]

Any news about Halo Reach resolution and AA ?

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Nothing and probably only the Beta is going to be of any use. Then again it's probably pretty close, too.

 

[zaftxx]

Any news about Halo Reach resolution and AA ?

seeing as its a new engine, one would guess 720p 2xAA

 

[AlNom]

Baseless assumption...

 

[RobertR1]

Do your thing AL!

http://i49.tinypic.com/k3lxuh.jpg

Others: http://www.gamereactor.se/bild/?textid=20868&id=201481&sid=3a18ba311142ef42d994132d405aae53

 

[AlNom]

Looks like supersampling.

 

[Laa-Yosh]

These look somewhat better then the first batch... although probably the same one level.
And I really like the mood of the concept painting with the civilians.

But it's just another bullshot, that's clear as well.

 

[Silent_Buddha]

Do your thing AL!

http://i49.tinypic.com/k3lxuh.jpg

His "package" fell out of his loincloth and dropped to the ground. Had to be censorsed, it's HUGE.

Regards,
SB

 

[zaftxx]

http://i46.tinypic.com/wbxu8h.jpg

Mass Effect 2 is indeed 720p. Will need to see more shots to determine if it's got the wonky MSAA again.

by wonky do you mean having 2xaa on some objects but 0 on others? i remember geow and geow 2 do the same. something with UE3?

 

[AlNom]

by wonky do you mean having 2xaa on some objects but 0 on others? i remember geow and geow 2 do the same. something with UE3?

Might depend on their post-processing chain in conjunction with the MSAA resolve (e.g. non-linear tone mapping, alpha effects rendering). Or it might be only using MSAA on certain rendering passes.

 

[bcrt2000]

Looks like supersampling.

This is actually the source image:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/ReachCampaign_m10_firstperson.jpg

I can see some jaggies underneath the weapon LED screen but the screen is also in 1080p.

 

[Laa-Yosh]

This is confusing...

 

[AlNom]

It seems to be downsampled from 2560x1440.

edit:

Basically, looking at the helicopter wing with the most contrast or high frequency (dark next to bright), there appeared to be sub-pixel steps. Based on the image being 1080p, there seemed to be 4 actual steps for every 3 pixels, or at least that's the consistent ratio I got after some more checking.

1080 *4/3 = 1440

 

[Prophecy2k]

Can anyone tell if Reach will have SSAO at all from those shots (I know they're early)?

Very nice textures and texture res seems high

 

[nightshade]

I didn't noticed any SSAO in those shots.

 

[assen]

Can anyone tell if Reach will have SSAO at all from those shots (I know they're early)?

Yep, look at the characters, the area where the gun is in front of their chest/stomach area.

 

[AlNom]

Yeah, nice catch! It's very subtle.

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/ReachCampaign_m10_NobleTeam02.jpg

It seems to be a very short radius of calculation (cheaper). Along Jorge's yellow piece of chest armour & grey helmet, you can see it as well or even the right side of Lone Wolf's helmet (or rather image-left) where it meets the chest armour.
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/ReachCampaign_m10_Noble.jpg

 

[Caris]

So does no one know the res of Reach yet? Based on that screenshot it looks like it doesn't have any AA at all.

It better not be a jaggy mess like 3 was.

 

[AlNom]

No one but Bungie at this point.

 

[Laa-Yosh]

Yeah, nice catch! It's very subtle.

Makes sense in a light pre-pass renderer, at least that's the impression I've got from reading up on the tech. Probably gonna have other kinds of post processing, too.