Perhaps a custom "AA" to avoid tiling... IIRC, the 4xMSAA sample positions are *near-identical between ATI and nVidia.
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Perhaps a custom "AA" to avoid tiling... IIRC, the 4xMSAA sample positions are *near-identical between ATI and nVidia.
Mirrors of each other, in fact, and same goes for 2xMSAA patterns
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Bit old pictures, but the patterns are still the same
nVidia:
ATI:
Images linked from http://www.tech-hounds.com/review12/ReviewsComplete.html
Looks like they skipped the msaa hardware completely, and instead are creating an 'averaged color' via post process wherever 'diagonals' are detected. I'm guessing they take a few samples on a horizontal line of both Z and color, maybe the pixel itself, two to the left, and two to the right. If there is enough delta between the Z samples then they write out an averaged color value from the samples.
Bioshock 2 ps3 and 360 screenshots, anyone whats to take a shot:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7727_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7727_en.html
MazingerDUDE
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680p for the PS3
720p for the 360
No AA, but with the slight blur filter for both
I guess they're using the same engine as the previous game
Confirmed?
Please note that the video player that I used to capture these shots had a sharpening filter turned on (to better accentuate the aliasing). Just throwing that out there in case that extra filtering is skewing anyone's results.
I'm absolutely certain there is a dynamic resolution changing going on, at least in the PSN demo I've played firsthand. In some scenes in the demo, there is a very noticeable sudden blurring and changing of edge aliasing step patterns if one observes closely. I suspect that if it weren't for the major pile of bodies on the floor in the one shot I took, the aliasing wouldn't be as bad as it is; the slowdown caused by all those characters on screen at a time probably triggered a resolution come-down to 1024x576.
Here's another picture comparison I made showing the dynamic resolution at work, that shows a clear difference in the edge/aliasing stepping patterns in a couple spots:
not surprising, Starbeeze already use dynamic AA on Darkness X360 version
edit: not clear on your bad screenshot
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Bioshock 2 screenshots show same res as Bioshock 1?
the first seem 680p but not others
Ie. just the PS3 shots are 680p? Or only some of the PS3 shots? Why would that be if it's the latter?
the first seem 680p http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0001.jpg
but this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0004.jpg
this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0007.jpg
or this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0003.jpg
are 720p
but this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0004.jpg
this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0007.jpg
or this http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10362/1819_0003.jpg
are 720p
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Is it just my eyes or is his head bigger in the 360 pic?
I noticed a little slower load times & frame-rate stutter during the transitions in the PS3 version. But nothing significant during the actual fighting. The 360 version did look like it was sharper on my TV but I think that's because of the 360's scaler & my TV being 1080p. PS3 version also seems darker (even compared to other PS3 games at the same TV settings).
Could the HANA scaler have alleviated the method used on the 360?
I suspect ps3 will be 680p ... bioshock preview shots were 720p and review reveals 680p at the end...
It must be. Not sure what's tricking my eyes. If it's the textures or the aliasing or if one is just shifted horizontally a little, maybe frame stutter on the PS3 messed w/ timing. I just measured the pixels and they're the same (corner of eye to back of head & to first blue pixel in glove tape). maybe the lighting/brightness is doing it.Your eyes I thinks
The PS3 looks like it has better textures, but the 360 has more lighting? The bottom of his glove is lit in 360 but dark in PS3.
edit: It's hard to tell for sure since my TV is scaling the PS3 to 1080p. But it looks like there's no AA during the actual match, just the corner activity & fighter intro. I haven't been able to find any actual gameplay screenshots for PS3 yet so I'm just guessing. Either that or its a combination of how my tv scales and it being below 720p during fighting gameplay. Or just my eyes playing tricks on me. I'll take some photos of my screen later and post them.
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I guess his head on the 360 is 1 or 2 pixels fatter (i.e. only horizontal), as I can see it too
It seems 360 has better texture in the logo reading neogaf, ps3 low resolution
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Sorry,I check and it's true, I have just seen the shots in my 32' tv hd in full screen and the horizontal lines seems on 360 has something 'strange' ... a little bit details less in the textures skins, the write on the screen little bit 'bigger' than ps3 version, it seems 360 version has lost something in the resolution, in the horizontal lines
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