Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

[Boxercide]

I enjoyed the references in that pic.

So none of the rumored MLAA. Shame. I think it would really help the IQ.

 

[Kameradschaft]

Anyone with access to the Japanese PSN store that can tell us something about El Shaddai? Looks like sub-HD to me though the art style helps a lot the IQ.

 

[Ruskie]

Gears 3
http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/gears-of-war-3-27/big_oldtown15.jpg

 

[Trejser]

Terrible compression. No other shots?

Edit: Ok, thanks.

Tearing?

http://static.blogo.it/gamesblog/gears-of-war-3-27/big_oldtown9.jpg

 

[Ruskie]

Terrible compression. No other shots?

There are 200 of them but they are all compressed.This seemed to be "okeish" plus there are lot of straight edges.I just thought maybe Al and his magic pixel counting eyes could figure this one out

LINK

 

[AlNom]

That's got to be the worst compression I've seen for analysis.

 

[Ruskie]

http://images.gamersyde.com/image_gears_of_war_3-15366-2017_0009.jpg

 

[AlNom]

720p (I didn't honestly expect them to change resolution).

 

[Ruskie]

720p (I didn't honestly expect them to change resolution).

Yea,me neither but whats with AA.They dropped it?

 

[Dave Glue]

Yea,me neither but whats with AA.They dropped it?

Since when did Gears ever have AA?

 

[AlNom]

Yea,me neither but whats with AA.They dropped it?

AA is going to be even harder to find considering the changes they've made to the rendering pipe. Even in Gears 2 it was pretty difficult to notice (usually edges against the sky or thin geometry in the distance).

Since when did Gears ever have AA?

Since Gears 1. They only do it for the static lighting & material passes, so it usually gets nix'd by any post-processing (bloom, DOF) or dynamic lighting. Any MSAA result is going to be incorrect as the much brighter lighting is applied afterwards anyway, so at best you'll see a very faint MSAA shade on the particular edge.

 

[kagemaru]

AA is going to be even harder to find considering the changes they've made to the rendering pipe.

What changes do you think would effect AA? New baked GI?

Sorry, outside of the baked GI, faked god rays, and motion blur, I haven't really kept up to date on what improvements they've made to UE3.

 

[AlNom]

What changes do you think would affect AA? New baked GI?

The light shafts ( I refuse to call them otherwise until they're 100% not faked but I digress ) would probably screw things up a fair bit as it's from the Sun to any environment object. Actually, in Bulletstorm (360), they do some really funky low resolution rendering for post-effects and there's a lot of artefacting when you have objects against the sky.

I'm not too clear on the baked GI causing a problem, as that counts as static lighting, but then Bulletstorm didn't have any MSAA either so...

Unfortunately, I won't have access to the beta to do my own "die-a-billion-times-while-staring-at-edges" routine.

 

[kagemaru]

Unfortunately, I won't have access to the beta to do my own "die-a-billion-times-while-staring-at-edges" routine.

Sorry but I chuckled out loud picturing this.

And I like light shafts, sounds more appropriate than god rays.

 

[Sh1nn]

InFamous 2 :

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9655/20110419220454.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9813/20110419220442.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9181/20110419233452.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5686/20110419220453.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2829/20110419215552.jpg

 

[Gitaroo]

shame that they don't have aa for infamous 2 at all but SSAO is more than welcome.

 

[2real4tv]

Wow that looks nice definitely 720p.

 

[N_B]

Lack of AA and shadow resolution are kind of nasty. Huge improvement in pedestrian models though.

 

[ultragpu]

MM, tasty shots from Infamous 2 a bit jaggy though. Really like the use of color and lighting seems somewhat brighter then the first? NPCs are also well modeled.

 

[Arwin]

MM, tasty shots from Infamous 2 a bit jaggy though. Really like the use of color and lighting seems somewhat brighter then the first? NPCs are also well modeled.

There are a few twins in there though, but hopefully there won't be too many.

You'd think that MLAA was a no-brainer, but either they need all SPU power for physics and such (which I can definitely understand seeing some of the user generated content stuff on youtube) or they're out of memory (which seems slightly less likely as they're not a multi-platform developer). My guess would be that SPUs are already being stretched.