Image Quality and Framebuffer Speculations for WIP/alpha/beta/E3 games *Read the first post*

Some fresh Motorstorm Apocalypse screenshots for AI to work his magic.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1374/avermediacenter20110309y.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/8517/avermediacenter20110309.jpg

 

no 1080p mode?

 

Have you seen the GDC presentation on MK vs DC? It discusses at length just how hard it was to reach 60fps with UE3.

 

This:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15118967/Hitting-60Hz-in-Unreal-Engine

Previous gen 3D games used Renderware, and frankly, they weren't that smooth all around graphically or otherwise (since 1997 in fact, so it's been a great while). WB's deep pockets were put to good use with this game all around.

 

The SSAO in uncharted is a really cheap dirty fast and not adanced at all.
That plus the fact that it is part of the sample code provided in the phyreEngine.ANy ps3 dev can use it.

 

really? Much better than without it at least for me. And much smoother looking than say Gears 2 and many others like Fear 2.

 

No one is saying those are any better either...

There's the Uncharted 2 presentation on the HDR lighting which covers the SSAO they used (and yes, they considered it rather hackish as well).

If you're looking for something more robust, there's HDAO/HBAO (e.g. modified in Halo Reach, DA2 PC, Stalker, Metro, BFBC2 PC) or Volumetric Obscurance (modified/used in CryEngine 3, Toy Story 3 [the game]).

 

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4707/20110308191257.jpg

really ugly alpha for mk half resolution, can tell since the macro blocks are 2x2.

 

ya, I meant there are much worse examples, like Fear 2 is probably some of the worse I have seen (better off without it IMO), Gears 2 looks very rough too. From ND slides their method is suppose to be dirt cheap (something like 1ms on 6 SPUs?)but it benefit the visual a lot at least for me. Not sure about reach, because they are not very noticeable unless you really look for them. Back to my original post I was surprised that KZ3 doesn't have any in gameplay since the are already a dirt cheap method they can use like U2, but only got them in the pre recorded fmv. I force AO with my nvida control panel for evey game that support it, haven't really seen any game that looks worse with it on.

 

Hint: the use of ambient occlusion shouldn't be noticeable. Rather, it is the absence of ambient occlusion that is noticeable.

 

true true, but not many games can find the balance. And often time pre baked on hide the real time AO.

 

Homefront comparison:
http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2hea...on/head2head-homefront-screenshot-comparison/

Was it developed by two different studios?

 

Wow, a UE3 game that performs better on PS3?

 

isn't this the Studio's first time working on the PS3?

 

We don't know how it performs, but textre streaming could be related to mandatory install that PS3 version most likely have.

But damn, we have 2 different persons here...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/wp-content/gallery/h2h_homefront/xbox-360-rollover_slide_03.jpg
http://www.lensoftruth.com/wp-content/gallery/h2h_homefront/ps3-rollover_slide_03.jpg

 

5th shot down looks like better texture filtering on 360.

The shots are zoomed in but they seem extraordinarily blurry, especially for PS3. Why don't they provide full sized images?

 

It isn't exactly the first time who UE3 has almost no popin texture on the ps3... but talking of perform, well.... I doubt it...

 

I don't know if depending of the texture...

 

Well you can see that it affects both the floor and the wall, and there don't seem to be examples where textures are better filtered in other shots.

 

Homefront has quite a problem with streaming.