Image Quality and Framebuffer Analysis for Available/release build Games *Read the first post*

[Billy Idol]

Just a question regarding GOW Collection: according to this forum, the game is 720p and 2xAA.
But why is the IQ of this game so damn good? Up to the point I played it, there is no jaggie in sight and it looks extremely clean...if I compare this to other 720p 2xAA games (such as for instance Uncharted 2, which has occasionally some pronounced aliasing) I really start to wonder if it is only my personal perception or if there is a technical reason?

 

[rekator]

May be game design, so dark areas with no high contrast difference.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

(such as for instance Uncharted 2, which has occasionally some pronounced aliasing)

The HDR in U2 breaks the AA method, so the brightest lines needing the most AA actually get none. GOW is all dark and low contrast and LDR, so the AA is consistent and jaggies less visible.

 

[Billy Idol]

May be game design, so dark areas with no high contrast difference.

The HDR in U2 breaks the AA method, so the brightest lines needing the most AA actually get none. GOW is all dark and low contrast and LDR, so the AA is consistent and jaggies less visible.

Thanks for the answers! So it is simple art (and low tech ), regardless...it impresses me somehow and makes the Collection a really worthy buy.

 

[E2K]

Final Fantasy XIII

Some framerate improve in a cut scene.

Retail Avg:29.719
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/481

Demo Avg:29.125
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/135

the lighting has been scaled down.

Now it matches this version more closely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLxW7IgUvY
Hope this does not affect the quality of the rest of the game ...

 

[Mr Deap]

End of Eternity(Resonance of Fate)

I downloaded both demo on each system. All I can say that the PS3 version have lower anisotropic filtering & the shadow resolution is also lower over the 360 version of the demo(as usual Quicunx make the picture quality look more blurred on the PS3 version overall).

As for the rest it look pretty much the same

 

[assurdum]

End of Eternity(Resonance of Fate)

I downloaded both demo on each system. All I can say that the PS3 version have lower anisotropic filtering & the shadow resolution is also lower over the 360 version of the demo(as usual Quicunx make the picture quality look more blurred on the PS3 version overall).

As for the rest it look pretty much the same

If use the QAA anisotropic filter could seems lower for this.

 

[COPS N RAPPERS]

the lighting has been scaled down.

Now it matches this version more closely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kLxW7IgUvY
Hope this does not affect the quality of the rest of the game ...

fixed up you mean, do the comparison.....they gave her more hair on her right side, and a necklace too.

new
http://www.gamersyde.com/pop_images_final_fantasy_xiii-12015-8.html

old
http://i46.tinypic.com/ve20dw.jpg

they also gave her way better alpha mapping on her hair, and also reduced some of the glossiness of her skin, as well as increased the warmth of it and on her lips too.

new
http://i46.tinypic.com/bf5ob5.jpg

old
http://i48.tinypic.com/2aetbo8.jpg

if there's any version id rather have it would most definitely be the new one.

 

[E2K]

fixed up you mean, do the comparison.....they gave her more hair on her right side, and a necklace too.

new
http://www.gamersyde.com/pop_images_final_fantasy_xiii-12015-8.html

old
http://i46.tinypic.com/ve20dw.jpg

they also gave her way better alpha mapping on her hair, and also reduced some of the glossiness of her skin, as well as increased the warmth of it and on her lips too.

new
http://i46.tinypic.com/bf5ob5.jpg

old
http://i48.tinypic.com/2aetbo8.jpg

if there's any version id rather have it would most definitely be the new one.

thanks for the comparison shots!
I like the new 'lightning'-character also.

Here is footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGCrpuWs1Y&hd=1
You see better and more shadows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsej-y6PGdA&hd=1 some glow effects appear to be missing.
But if the framerate is better, then I'm happy

 

[COPS N RAPPERS]

thanks for the comparison shots!
I like the new 'lightning'-character also.

Here is footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGCrpuWs1Y&hd=1
You see better and more shadows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsej-y6PGdA&hd=1 some glow effects appear to be missing.
But if the framerate is better, then I'm happy

sure, no prob.

the lighting engine is a little different between the two versions, it was tweaked here and there.

the weird glowing lighting source that was on Sazh's afro was changed but an increase in highlights are present.

Old
http://i46.tinypic.com/2m31vmv.jpg

New
http://i45.tinypic.com/200u44l.jpg

Old
http://i48.tinypic.com/21eb955.jpg

New
http://i46.tinypic.com/2jb88w7.jpg

some of the lighting effects were probably taken away or altered do to the anonymous points of origins they had. (the glowing aura that was on Sazh's afro followed him everywhere even when there was no particular lighting source pointing at it.)

 

[Gitaroo]

new build seems better, last two comparison you can see Lighting's sword cast shadow on the character, same with the Afro guy, he has more shadow and they all seems to have softer edge. Final is definitely better to me.

 

[GuestLV]

Darksiders graphics comparison
http://www.systemwars.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1397680&postcount=19

 

[2real4tv]

Darksiders graphics comparison
http://www.systemwars.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1397680&postcount=19

They probably came from here:
http://www.videogameszone.de/aid,70...nu=browser&article_id=702730&image_id=1236706

 

[AlNom]

Seems to be 1152*648; I'm getting a consistent 9 steps every 10 pixels in both dimensions

edit: posts moved to appropriate thread

 

[COPS N RAPPERS]

darksiders's cut scenes not real-time?

http://www.videogameszone.de/m,brow...terschiede zwischen PS3- und Xbox 360-Version

 

[AlNom]

The letterboxed scenes appear to be 720p with an edge blur of sorts, at least on 360.


the late night edit: Most of the letterboxed scenes are 720p, at least one is 648p res, but the one might be a transition scene? I don't know.

 

[Sigfried1977]

darksiders's cut scenes not real-time?

http://www.videogameszone.de/m,brow...terschiede zwischen PS3- und Xbox 360-Version

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are not real time. The movies are compressed rather well, but there's still plenty of compression artifacts, block noise etc. They are also silky smooth, with no tearing or framerate inconsistencies whatsoever.

 

[Sigfried1977]

The letterboxed scenes appear to be 720p with an edge blur of sorts, at least on 360.


the late night edit: Most of the letterboxed scenes are 720p, at least one is 648p res, but the one might be a transition scene? I don't know.

The game also goes into letterbox mode whenever you lock onto a specific target or deal one of the many scripted killing blows.

 

[COPS N RAPPERS]

The letterboxed scenes appear to be 720p with an edge blur of sorts, at least on 360.


the late night edit: Most of the letterboxed scenes are 720p, at least one is 648p res, but the one might be a transition scene? I don't know.

is the actual gameplay on 360 720p or are some of the cut scenes 720p?

 

[AlNom]

Gameplay is 1152x648.