Ign talks about closed doors

[jvd]

3. Behind Closed Doors
While the show floor lacked show-stopping software, there were plenty of surprises behind closed doors. This was partially due to the early state of next-generation software and a lack of big games coming out early this fall and many of the nominees for our E3 awards couldn't be seen by walking the floor. The 360 lineup looked pretty sparse from the front of the Microsoft booth, but with a magical trinket called a press pass the wonders of Gears of War and Perfect Dark were laid before us. For casuals visitors to the conference this sucks, but receiving an in-depth preview of a game away from the rowdy masses is the best way to really experience the software in a short period of time.



The Oblivion trailer at the Microsoft press conference was a gas, but didn't have nearly the same effect on me as the 20 minutes of gameplay displayed by Bethesda later in the week. In a small room, the developers were able to explain in great detail why Oblivion's stunning visuals were not the only aspect of the series that have been drastically revamped. E3 usually has a superficial air about it, but sometimes its what's on the inside that counts.

sounds like ms wowed the press behind closed doors. Wish they would have put it out on the floor

 

[quest55720]

3. Behind Closed Doors
While the show floor lacked show-stopping software, there were plenty of surprises behind closed doors. This was partially due to the early state of next-generation software and a lack of big games coming out early this fall and many of the nominees for our E3 awards couldn't be seen by walking the floor. The 360 lineup looked pretty sparse from the front of the Microsoft booth, but with a magical trinket called a press pass the wonders of Gears of War and Perfect Dark were laid before us. For casuals visitors to the conference this sucks, but receiving an in-depth preview of a game away from the rowdy masses is the best way to really experience the software in a short period of time.



The Oblivion trailer at the Microsoft press conference was a gas, but didn't have nearly the same effect on me as the 20 minutes of gameplay displayed by Bethesda later in the week. In a small room, the developers were able to explain in great detail why Oblivion's stunning visuals were not the only aspect of the series that have been drastically revamped. E3 usually has a superficial air about it, but sometimes its what's on the inside that counts.

sounds like ms wowed the press behind closed doors. Wish they would have put it out on the floor

Why would they put the best stuff behind closed doors? It really strikes me as strange that with an impending launch the best stuff would be behind closed doors. From the sounds of that article if they showed everything people would of had a much much beter opinion of the 360.

 

[jvd]

yea as i said i wish they put it on the floor . I guess they figured the press would be more forgiving if the games crashed alot ?

 

[ERP]

3. Behind Closed Doors
While the show floor lacked show-stopping software, there were plenty of surprises behind closed doors. This was partially due to the early state of next-generation software and a lack of big games coming out early this fall and many of the nominees for our E3 awards couldn't be seen by walking the floor. The 360 lineup looked pretty sparse from the front of the Microsoft booth, but with a magical trinket called a press pass the wonders of Gears of War and Perfect Dark were laid before us. For casuals visitors to the conference this sucks, but receiving an in-depth preview of a game away from the rowdy masses is the best way to really experience the software in a short period of time.



The Oblivion trailer at the Microsoft press conference was a gas, but didn't have nearly the same effect on me as the 20 minutes of gameplay displayed by Bethesda later in the week. In a small room, the developers were able to explain in great detail why Oblivion's stunning visuals were not the only aspect of the series that have been drastically revamped. E3 usually has a superficial air about it, but sometimes its what's on the inside that counts.

sounds like ms wowed the press behind closed doors. Wish they would have put it out on the floor

Why would they put the best stuff behind closed doors? It really strikes me as strange that with an impending launch the best stuff would be behind closed doors. From the sounds of that article if they showed everything people would of had a much much beter opinion of the 360.

E3's been going more and more this way over the last 5 or so years.

The problem is that the only people you really want to show your software to is the press and the buyers, why would you want to show work in progress software to your competition?

 

[mckmas8808]

why would you want to show work in progress software to your competition?

To excite the millions of potential buyers that want something new to play. Simply showing 3 minutes worth goes a long way. They could have done the samething that Sony did with Fight Night and Unreal. This sounds to me like it could be a great thing for MS, I just wished that I could have seen it.
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[jvd]

why would you want to show work in progress software to your competition?

To excite the millions of potential buyers that want something new to play. Simply showing 3 minutes worth goes a long way. They could have done the samething that Sony did with Fight Night and Unreal. This sounds to me like it could be a great thing for MS, I just wished that I could have seen it.

what like how they showed gow and other games ? They showed plenty of stuff.

 

[mckmas8808]

jvd I was trying to agree with you. I wish that MS would have put it on the floor and show it in their conference to the world like they did behind closed doors.
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[jvd]

jvd I was trying to agree with you. I wish that MS would have put it on the floor and show it in their conference to the world like they did behind closed doors.

right thats fine and all but u give examples of ps3 games but none of ms games . Ms showed off gears of war and other games . In fact they had playable games on the show floor.

Its just that the best games were playable behind close doors something that sony did not do

 

[MechanizedDeath]

This makes no sense. With the 6 month gap to PS3, this is the time when they'd have the playable games and the competition won't. They ran a 30-minute snoozefest with underwhelming visual on MTV, and lay a turd at their presser. Yet they show off the good stuff where no one can see it and get hyped? I'm not sure how this is a good thing. Sure we'll get the whoppers in bite-sized chunks from the media throughout the Summer, but this just gives Sony time to get some of their devs to start feeding the press some of their own games. It would seem like E3 was the chance to actually leverage this early launch for something. But if not now, then when? And what exactly are they saving it for? Sony already got the jump on them with the press conference. It would seem kinda pointless to conserve ammo while the marauding army loads up with bigger shells. I sure hope they have something crazy in store, b/c this strategy makes no sense whatsoever to me. PEACE.

 

[mckmas8808]

Its just that the best games were playable behind close doors something that sony did not do

Now jvd I know you could have typed that with a straight face. Read your comment again and please retract it. First, why would MS want the best games NOT to be seen by million of people in more detail in the small media got to see it. Second Sony's console is coming out 6 MONTHS LATER!! Why can't people like you understand this. Sony will probably have something playable at TGS. Bad move MS.
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[jvd]

You seem to not pay attention .

You state that they should have done what sony did and show thier games . Sony showed two tech demos , none were playable games .

Ms showed tech demos , playable games , non playable games , had playable games on the show floor and behind closed doors .

So not only did ms do what sony did but they did alot more than that . Which you fail to mention

 

[mckmas8808]

You seem not to pay attention. They should have rode the GoW game to the a$$, like they do Halo. They should have shown us what they showed behind closed doors. And why are you going against me here, I'm trying to agree with your original post.
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[jvd]

they showed it during thier show how else could they have ridden it ?

You show the game , should they have made a 2hr movie out of it ? Ms has a launch coming up and they want all the almost finished launch games to get some face time as they have to sell them soon . Sony on the other hand had 2 tech demos from upcoming games the rest were cgi representations of games . They have a year left to sell the games . Big diffrence .

 

[jimpo]

why would you want to show work in progress software to your competition?

To excite the millions of potential buyers that want something new to play. Simply showing 3 minutes worth goes a long way. They could have done the samething that Sony did with Fight Night and Unreal. This sounds to me like it could be a great thing for MS, I just wished that I could have seen it.

I don't think that kind of excitement is a good thing. I'd much rather not see those previews of games that are going to be released only after a few years. When Doom 3 was first shown as a tech demo, it totally dropped my jaw. But by the time it was actually released (was the wait something like 2 years? it certainly felt so long) it was not that impressive anymore. The games would feel so much more spectacular if we had not been spoiled by tech demos, previews, sneak peeks and (often prerendered, exaggerating the quality) screenshots for a duration of 12-24 months by the time they are released.

 

[pc999]

What they showed in closed doors has beta HW, or still the early devkits

Anyone knows

 

[pc999]

Videos for XB match

Loocks nicier than the trailer

http://media.xboxmatch.com/videos/e32005/cod2_1.avi (49Mo)
http://media.xboxmatch.com/videos/e32005/cod2_2.avi (59Mo)
http://media.xboxmatch.com/videos/e32005/cod2_3.avi (38Mo)
http://media.xboxmatch.com/videos/e32005/cod2_4.avi (38Mo)


BTW great control of game it is a normal controler