Idei san : Technological visionaries are screwing Sony...

[kaching]

Idei san is blaming broadband network and executives too much focused on technological prowess as the cause of Sony's trouble.

As chairman of Sony, are you saying that he now regrets:

A) Forming a Home Network company,
B) Forming a Broadband Network company,
C) Appointing Ken Kutaragi as COO of both, and
D) Approving billions in Cell and other advanced semiconductor R&D

???

Considering that all of this has happened fairly recently then IF you are saying he regrets doing all these things and wishes he could take them back then I would ABSOLUTELY agree that Sony is in deep s***, because having a chairman who's as fickle as your memory is selective is definitely a detriment to any company.

 

[Grall]

Moderators...

For the love of god, STOP THE HATE...

Pleeeeeeease!
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[Panajev2001a]

Idei san is blaming broadband network and executives too much focused on technological prowess as the cause of Sony's trouble.

As chairman of Sony, are you saying that he now regrets:

A) Forming a Home Network company,
B) Forming a Broadband Network company,
C) Appointing Ken Kutaragi as COO of both, and
D) Approving billions in Cell and other advanced semiconductor R&D

???

Considering that all of this has happened fairly recently then IF you are saying he regrets doing all these things and wishes he could take them back then I would ABSOLUTELY agree that Sony is in deep s***, because having a chairman who's as fickle as your memory is selective is definitely a detriment to any company.

E) Consolidating all the Sony corp. Semiconductor Business in SSNC ( Semiconductor Solutions Network Company ).

F) Appointing Ken Kutaragu as head of SSNC.

 

[Panajev2001a]

All products get commodotized in the end ... a company as big as Sony needs to be in high volume low margin markets too though. There is only so much money to be made in niche markets and markets where you can get software vendor lockin.

Sony is not pulling out: they will still hav 7 fabs outside Japan for CRTs and they will keep partnering with external vencors and licensing in that sector as CRT is not the sector that warranties the current 11 fabs and high R&D spending as it is a quite mature sector and newer FED technologies like OLED and CNT based FED are on the rise.

 

[Almasy]

Moderators...

For the love of god, STOP THE HATE...

Pleeeeeeease!
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Sonic is never around, and jvd is a mod....and you expect this to end any time soon?

 

[chaphack]

While DMGA is constantly heckling at Sony negatives, there are others constantly showering the love at Sony positives. I say its fair, brings balance and adds another dimension of insight of the Sony world. So i dont see anything wrong with this topic

 

[Almasy]

While DMGA is constantly heckling at Sony negatives, there are others constantly showering the love at Sony positives. I say its fair, brings balance and adds another dimension of insight of the Sony world. So i dont see anything wrong with this topic

Of course you don´t. I´ve been lurking in this place for quite some time (because I GENUINELY want to learn, unlike you), and it still amazes me how pathetically predictable you are.

Many have already said everything there is to say. SCEA has also made most of Sony´s profit in the recent years, and DMGA expects us to believe that killing off SCEA is what Idei wants to do? Hillarious.

 

[chaphack]

Its not about killing SCE, its about the many complications in the Sony World. Its not as "perfect" as some of yuo are making it out.

 

[Paul]

Its not as "perfect" as some of yuo are making it out.

Then again, Sony, it's views, and it's new technologies aren't as "horrible" or "will fail" as a certain few are making it out to be.

 

[chaphack]

Its not as "perfect" as some of yuo are making it out.

Then again, Sony, it's views, and it's new technologies aren't as "horrible" or "will fail" as a certain few are making it out to be.

Hi former engineer of Toshiba!
Have you heard about the prudence concept?

 

[Almasy]

Its not about killing SCE, its about the many complications in the Sony World. Its not as "perfect" as some of yuo are making it out.

What did I just say about your predictability?

I barely participate here and you have already labeled me as a big Sony supporter.

If you think about it chap, instead of using your "I hate Sony googles" as usual, you´ll see that DMGA is just a master of twisting the words of others. This is just another example. Why would Sony regret investing on something that has given them so many profits and revenue and that can potentially deliver a lot more? It only makes sense in DMGA´s world.

 

[chaphack]

What did I just say about your predictability?

I barely participate here and you have already labeled me as a big Sony supporter.

If you think about it chap, instead of using your "I hate Sony googles" as usual, you´ll see that DMGA is just a master of twisting the words of others. This is just another example. Why would Sony regret investing on something that has given them so many profits and revenue and that can potentially deliver a lot more? It only makes sense in DMGA´s world.

Maybe instead of taking heart to DMGA "twisted words" why dont you just read about the news he posted?

 

[Paul]

Hi former engineer of Toshiba!
Have you heard about the prudence concept?

No idea what your trying to say, if your talking about Tokyo!, then yes, this former "engineer" of Toshiba has been a personal friend of mine for more than 8 years now.

Do you want me to give him a message? I can call him and make it personal, although the cost of a Phone call from New Jersey to Japan is pretty high.

 

[nondescript]

Sony is not pulling out: they will still hav 7 fabs outside Japan for CRTs and they will keep partnering with external vencors and licensing in that sector as CRT is not the sector that warranties the current 11 fabs and high R&D spending as it is a quite mature sector and newer FED technologies like OLED and CNT based FED are on the rise.

CNT based FED is truly an exciting area (partially because I do research in SW-CNT's myself) My bet is on NEC commercializing it first though...

Sony has to ship the low margin manufacturing to overseas locations (China, E. Europe) to stay in the game. It's also been outsourcing production to Taiwanese contract manufacturers like Hon Hai Precision and Quanta. (PS2 being a good example of that)

 

[kaching]

Similar to Almasy, I've been lurking here quite awhile and I have to make the observation, chap, that, as much as people complain about your grasp of the English language you have an interesting pattern of sudden coherence on certain topics...defending Deadmeat in the last few posts, for example, is much more coherent than your ramblings about "Sony World", "shiny shine" and so forth.

I'm all for a balanced and OBJECTIVE analysis of Sony's fortunes, plans, prospects, etc. but by your own perceptive choice of words, Deadmeat is not contributing to such a thing, he's heckling.

And having watched the fight go back and forth, I can assure you from a more removed perspective that there's no one here that paints the Sony World as perfect. You've just revealed you're a little too emotionally invested in this, chap, in making such a sweeping generalization.

 

[chaphack]

No idea what your trying to say, if your talking about Tokyo!, then yes, this former "engineer" of Toshiba has been a personal friend of mine for more than 8 years now.

Do you want me to give him a message? I can call him and make it personal, although the cost of a Phone call from New Jersey to Japan is pretty high.

Of course he is.

Maybe you can tell him, if he really wants to give us more info about Cell, please give us something new and in-depth, rather than the same ol' whacaca that can be easily obtained from the internet.

Thanks. Would like to know more about Cell myself(ryhmes!).

 

[Almasy]

Maybe instead of taking heart to DMGA "twisted words" why dont you just read about the news he posted?

I did, and I don´t know exactly from where he got the conclusion that Kutaragi-san is about to get fired and Idei regrets investing in SCEA and wants to kill it off.

However, as it is usual with you, you just see what you want to see. I advice you to leave the boards. You do nothing but derailing arguements and have nothing to contribute to these boards, nothing.

You don´t even have a mind of your own, and have to resort to legendary idiots such as DMGA and the horribly biased Lazy8s to create arguements for you to use and reuse constantly.

Deadmeat is so reliable that he predicted PS2 would be a finantial disaster and thought Sony shouldn´t even launch it. Read other of DMGA´s and Lazy´s "precious" contributions in the GA forums and prepare for the laugh of your life.

 

[Paul]

Where does he even post? I only saw him post here a few times.

And how are you getting the idea that I am somehow Tokyo? Was he leaking more of my personal life again over AIM or something?

 

[chaphack]

Similar to Almasy, I've been lurking here quite awhile and I have to make the observation, chap, that, as much as people complain about your grasp of the English language you have an interesting pattern of sudden coherence on certain topics...defending Deadmeat in the last two posts, for example, is much more coherent than your ramblings about "Sony World", "shiny shine" and so forth.

I'm all for a balanced and OBJECTIVE analysis of Sony's fortunes, plans, prospects, etc. but by your own perceptive choice of words, Deadmeat is not contributing to such a thing, he's heckling.

And having watched the fight go back and forth, I can assure you from a more removed perspective that there's no one here that paints the Sony World as perfect. You've just revealed you're a little too emotionally invested in this, chap, to make such a sweeping generalization.

Dude, like i said, just read the info DMGA posted. You dont have to take his views to heart.

As for the "perfect" world, obviously you haven read enough. Its seems to the Sony groupies here, Sony can do almost everything perfect next gen.

From the Sony will have a full set top box BR PS3 for 299, to the Sony will have perfect production of the 65nm Cell chips, to the Sony will have a strong stable software environment for mulitcore Cell, to the Sony will have easy PS3 games development, to the Sony will have all the neccessary 3D hardware capabilites all worked out, to the Sony will easily walk away victorious next gen, to the Sony will put an end to Intel/MS ambitions for your living room, to the Sony will have complete Cell success, to the Sony will establish Cell as the new x86 massive standard, to the Sony will make the masses readily adopt to their new fangled ideals, to the Sony will have their online dreamy dreams coming true, to the PSP will crush Nintendo dominant territory, to the yadadadada.

When someone put out the doubts on the table, they would jump onto him and try to "shut" him up one way or another.

Well, maybe "perfect" is a too strong word, maybe i should go back to my older term, "Sony Optimism". Is that better?

 

[Citan]

I advice you to leave the boards. You do nothing but derailing arguements and have nothing to contribute to these boards, nothing.

As another lurker I'm gonna echo this and add in that as biased as DMGA's posts are they are infinitely more readable then your 11 year old mental diarrhea.