PC-Engine said:
Coming from an American, that's rather ironic.
I want another SEGA console.
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Coming from an American, that's rather ironic.
Yep. Don't know much about Sega history. So people can explain, and most importantly what can they bring into the console space that isn't already covered? Where is there to go? Sonic mentions games which are software, and Sega can innovate software on any hardware. Then there's force feedback in the arcades or online gaming...which were evolutions of ideas. If Sega didn't have these ideas someone else would have.Simon F said:
I'm not entering into an argument over how innovative Sega are, because I don't have an opinion and it's a subjective concept anyway. Everytime one person points out an innovation, someone else points out the predecessor from which it's derived. My point is if Sega were to introduce a fourth console what would be it's unique selling point? What can they add new that isn't already covered? We've got perfect onine gaming, super power, multifunctionality, unique controllers, optical interaction... What could their hardware do or be to attract the customers away from the existing solutions? Why is a Sega console preferable over a MS, Sony or Nintendo console?
Shifty Geezer said:
Well there would be very little to discuss about how innovative SEGA are. Cause these days, they just aren't. Unless very pretty VF5 is considered "innovative" which i don't. As good as the game is, it's just an update of the 10 year old game they always had.
What can be discussed is how innovative they used to be.
Didn't you know, Nintendo filed patents for Everything(TM) 563 years ago.
To be honest, very little, with X360 being the media hub MS wants us to believe and PS3 being the other media hub Sony wants us to believe, and Nintendo doing their own wacky thing.
You have to admire SEGA SAMMY's hardware making abilities, just look at what they have managed with LINDBERGH. Off the shelf components, minimum R&D budget, short dev time and it kills both XBox360 and PS3 in graphics. Billions of dollars spent in R&D, billions of dollars in fabs and contracts, billion of dollars and years of development with companies to produce highly custom hardware from the ground up.
None of that was enough to compete with the almighty Double S.
None of that was enough to compete with the almighty Double S.
TEXAN said:
Uhm and you know that... how? Seen how Lindbergh has a 6800-class GPU and both PS3 and X360 have a GPU belonging to a generation later, i'd rather think otherwise.
Just because you're still ejaculating over VF5 videos, it doesn't mean the same kind of graphics can't be done on PS3 and X360, in fact i expect it will be even surpassed.
Though it's doubtful Lindbergh does Kill XB360 and PS3 in the graphics department, it wouldn't be surprising given lots more RAM. Of course it's not the least bit hard to make a more powerful piece of hardware than a $300-400 console if you're going to charge $thousands for your kit. At ten times the price it ought to be more powerful (and possibly isn't).
Why is TEXAN still here? He doesn't contribute anything of worth ever to the console forum. He spouts mindless Sega propagnda and can't partake of any debate on an intelligent level.
Why is TEXAN still here? He doesn't contribute anything of worth ever to the console forum. He spouts mindless Sega propagnda and can't partake of any debate on an intelligent level.
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Oh, Good opportunity! TEXAN, tell me everything you know about the Monkey Fist character they're adding to Virtua Fighter! I'm really looking forward to playing with that style.
TEXAN said:
Cheaper and more powerful! What are Sony and MS thinking!!
Sega's platforms developed the industry in more ways than just hardware innovation, though the ambitious specifications of their systems, the loss leader business model, and the drastic shift in industry marketing they brought with their focus on technical sophistication did modernize the industry. A major part of their legacy is actually the very blueprint for today's mainstream platform which they instituted.
Before them, video gaming was a hobby marketed at kids as Nintendo controlled the space. Sega preyed on that image, intending to appeal instead to a general audience with mature content, edgy branding, sports games lines, and licensed properties. They escalated the whole violence in video games issue and got it infront of the US Congress and the eyes of the nation. Among the other changes necessary for growth they created, they also adopted their own software ratings system before the ESRB was established to give the medium a structure for targeting different age groups.
Something that would be welcomed which Sega could do in hardware, either home-tethered or mobile, if they returned to it is to try to offer a console that leads the advance of gaming technology beyond any PC, even those with dual GPUs, like they did with Dreamcast. They've actually had the technology to do this all year in the mobile market with their SH3707 based Aurora platform, but they appear to be targeting it only for gaming/gambling machines at this time.
Before them, video gaming was a hobby marketed at kids as Nintendo controlled the space. Sega preyed on that image, intending to appeal instead to a general audience with mature content, edgy branding, sports games lines, and licensed properties. They escalated the whole violence in video games issue and got it infront of the US Congress and the eyes of the nation. Among the other changes necessary for growth they created, they also adopted their own software ratings system before the ESRB was established to give the medium a structure for targeting different age groups.
Something that would be welcomed which Sega could do in hardware, either home-tethered or mobile, if they returned to it is to try to offer a console that leads the advance of gaming technology beyond any PC, even those with dual GPUs, like they did with Dreamcast. They've actually had the technology to do this all year in the mobile market with their SH3707 based Aurora platform, but they appear to be targeting it only for gaming/gambling machines at this time.
I know this is a bit offtopic, but what does Nintendo mean? what's the origin of the word?
Betamax said:
All VF games are different to the previous iterations. It's still VF though.
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