How many GFLOPs are actually in use to decode hd level VC-1/mpeg-4?

[DemoCoder]

Advocating for the devil....

...because it's a closed/proprietry?

Ah, but iHD is closed/proprietary. It leverages existing standards (embrace and extend!) but it is patented and MS IP and you cannot build an iHD implementation or tools for free.

 

[randycat99]

Now get this- I hear the new BR player to come out of the gate will be a 3 Ghz Pentium D and 2 GB of ram. Now if the jpn hd-dvd player can do it in 500 MB of ram, what in the world is 2 GB of ram needed for???

Granted, the player I mention is actually a BR-equipped media hub, but damn do these specs seem out there, to me.

 

[one]

Now get this- I hear the new BR player to come out of the gate will be a 3 Ghz Pentium D and 2 GB of ram. Now if the jpn hd-dvd player can do it in 500 MB of ram, what in the world is 2 GB of ram needed for???

Granted, the player I mention is actually a BR-equipped media hub, but damn do these specs seem out there, to me.

Which model is that? If it's a media hub, isn't it a recorder or something like MCE PC which does transcoding etc?

 

[randycat99]

I don't know about it recording or transcoding, but I think it does run that MS media center OS.

 

[DragonGuardian]

Which model is that? If it's a media hub, isn't it a recorder or something like MCE PC which does transcoding etc?

Maybe he is talking about this model:
http://www.amexdigital.com/Press_Release-E_M505BD.htm

real monster!!

 

[Ty]

Same bootup time as US models AFAIK.

Then I wonder what's the extra memory for? I believe it's the US models that have the minute bootup and heavy menu lag. I wonder if the Japanese version is worse?

 

[NANOTEC]

Then I wonder what's the extra memory for? I believe it's the US models that have the minute bootup and heavy menu lag. I wonder if the Japanese version is worse?

The $500 models were not sold in Japan, only the higher end model. The low end model have 1GB of RAM. Oh and the players don't take a minute to load. That's just BS. You're probably talking about the Samsung BR player that takes 45 seconds to load and can't even play DVDs. The HD DVD players only take around 20 seconds to load as confirmed by many people who own them.

 

[randycat99]

Well, that's not telling the whole story, but it would be off-topic to go on about it in this topic. For those interested, all they need to do is visit a video forum and look up topics of Toshiba's hd-dvd players. It's certainly not all rosey, and you will also find varied reports on the bootup time.

 

[rabidrabbit]

The $500 models were not sold in Japan, only the higher end model. The low end model have 1GB of RAM. Oh and the players don't take a minute to load. That's just BS. You're probably talking about the Samsung BR player that takes 45 seconds to load and can't even play DVDs. The HD DVD players only take around 20 seconds to load as confirmed by many people who own them.

Hmm, all the reviews I've read have told otherwise. I just don't think they're all BS'ing.
Here's an excerpt from an otherwise very positive review of the Toshiba HD-DVD player:

If there's a disc in the drawer, the time from power-on to seeing it onscreen is a brutally long 1 minute, 20 seconds. Disc-load times when the player is already running vary from 50 to 70 seconds.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=1473&page_number=3

 

[Tahir2]

One may as well build his or her own media centre PC with a HD DVD/Bluray drive and a videocard with HDMI and HDCP. /Snort

 

[Ty]

The $500 models were not sold in Japan, only the higher end model. The low end model have 1GB of RAM. Oh and the players don't take a minute to load. That's just BS. You're probably talking about the Samsung BR player that takes 45 seconds to load and can't even play DVDs. The HD DVD players only take around 20 seconds to load as confirmed by many people who own them.

Nope. I'm speaking specificly about the Toshiba HD-DVD player. Here's a quote that explains where the lag is.

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,125431,pg,1,00.asp#

Not So Speedy

So what about the usability of the Toshiba player?

My overwhelming impression of the HD-XA1 has been of slowness, and this is mainly down to the start-up. It takes about 35 seconds for the "Toshiba HD-DVD" logo to appear on-screen after hitting the "on" button, and the "Welcome" message remains on the player's display until 55 seconds after launch. There's a further 10 seconds elapse--meaning 65 seconds in all--before the first images from the disc appear on the screen.

What's more, you can't do anything while the player is booting up, so it takes about a minute just to eject a disc from the machine. That isn't very impressive.

Disc load times while the machine is running are also slow. It took 28 seconds for the "loading" display to change to "HD-DVD" when after slipping in a disc, and a further 10 seconds for the disc to start playing. Loading a DVD disc is slightly quicker, but only by about 5 seconds.

Toshiba realizes the player takes a long time to start and wants to improve this, according to a spokeswoman.

And note that BR is pretty darn bad too right now. Some think it's got something to do with DRM.