Halo Infinite [Fall 2021] [XO, XBSX|S, PC, XGP]

[Remij]

if they can improve infinite as much as they have improved the MCC, it will be a good thing!
Infinite was in a MUCH better start to start with.

Nothing they've been able to do since the first year of release has given me any faith that this team can do that.

I'm really tired of 343i releasing half-assed and broken titles with missing features that were promised and then attempting to fix them years later.

Not falling for it again. It's a systemic issue, and changing out a couple people isn't going to do anything. Halo needs to go to an entirely different developer.

-We're developing a brand new engine built from the ground up for the next generation of Halo!
*shows tech demo showcasing engine features..which turns out to be complete BS*
-Here's our reveal trailer!
-We're bringing Halo BACK! More classic looking artstyle! This is Master Chief's story!
-Ray Tracing coming post launch! Please be excite!!
*years pass*
-Here's a demo of Halo Infinite! Enjoy!
*Demo looks bad - massive backlash*
-Ok we've decided to delay Halo Infinite for a year! We need to polish everything! Look forward to open world Halo!
*some updates - game looks a bit better*
-This game is built to take full advantage of your powerful PC! 4K, 120hz support, Ultrawide!
-Alright everyone excited? We're launching later this year!
*Game releases with all sorts of technical issues, 30fps animations, broken camera interpolation, stutters, FPS drops, missing features like Forge and Co-op*
-Ok hope you enjoyed Halo Infinite!
*Multiplayer progression is terrible, lame rewards, no content*
-We're working on new content and will fix! Remember to look forward to split-screen and Forge in an upcoming Season!
*Another delay*
-Sorry, but we're cutting split-screen and delaying Forge.. Please continue to play.



Imagine Halo being treated like this... Purely incompetent management. This is Xbox's premiere franchise. The reason why Xbox became what it was. One of the best FPS franchises of all time..

"If we lose our way with Halo, we lose our way with Xbox" - Phil Spencer 2011

They've lost their way... It's extremely clear. Phil has done an amazing job turning Xbox around from a business and technical standpoint. He's turned the brand around to take advantage of the strengths of Microsoft... He literally saved Xbox.

Now is the time to literally save Halo. Bring in entirely fresh blood. Brand new team... and hire some god damn Sony management. Throw a large cheque to get someone like Scott Rhode over to Xbox and start smartening up these companies.. getting things shipping on time with promised content and features..

 

[Nesh]

The original Xbox One model does support 2 player splitscreen for the multiplayer component. 4 player splitscreen on Xbox Series hardware.

There's a glitch, that's been around for a while now, that allows you to play splitscreen campaign. Of course this is not perfect but it does seem to work on the original Xbox One as well:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565877948997148672

Why did they cancel it if through a glitch it works and it needs just a few refinements?
Doesnt make sense

 

[eastmen]

if they can improve infinite as much as they have improved the MCC, it will be a good thing!
Infinite was in a MUCH better start to start with.

From what I understand the next halo is already in development but I don't think it will appear until the very tail end of this generation or the very start of the next. heard there will be a new engine and one of the engines being looked into is id tech

 

[Subtlesnake]

Why did they cancel it if through a glitch it works and it needs just a few refinements?
Doesnt make sense

The glitch can lead to desync and softlocks and also wipe save progress. Regular online co-op is probably in a better state and that isn't released yet.

The standard for an experimental feature is a lot lower than that of something considered core functionality of the game. In the latter case it pretty much has to work 100% of the time.

 

[Nesh]

The glitch can lead to desync and softlocks and also wipe save progress. Regular online co-op is probably in a better state and that isn't released yet.

The standard for an experimental feature is a lot lower than that of something considered core functionality of the game. In the latter case it pretty much has to work 100% of the time.

Is it experimental or something that needs to be worked on just like any feature in a game? Of course its gonna have bugs before its refined
They promised features about this flagship title which got canceled. It needs a much better treatment than broken promises

 

[BRiT]

Is it experimental or something that needs to be worked on just like any feature in a game? Of course its gonna have bugs before its refined
They promised features about this flagship title which got canceled. It needs a much better treatment than broken promises

It's not in the game. That should tell you all you need to know. If it was the least bit stable or close to being finished they would have finished it.

 

[Nesh]

It's not in the game. That should tell you all you need to know. If it was the least bit stable or close to being finished they would have finished it.

It tells me that they promised co op but cancelled it

 

[Subtlesnake]

Is it experimental or something that needs to be worked on just like any feature in a game? Of course its gonna have bugs before its refined
They promised features about this flagship title which got canceled. It needs a much better treatment than broken promises

343 didn't cancel it because it was impossible to get it working. They cancelled it because they needed the engineering resources to use elsewhere, as they are so far behind on their multiplayer plans.

Technically they never said it wouldn't come back at a later point. Just that right now they have stopped development on it.

 

[orangpelupa]

I wonder if the challanges of making "live service shooter" is one of the reason why Sony bought bungie.

Anthem, basically zombie. Halo infinite content updates, in long development hell/delays. Destiny-like ubisoft project I can't remember the name, dead (the division still going tho).

Maybe Microsoft should have bought bungie...

 

[Nesh]

343 didn't cancel it because it was impossible to get it working. They cancelled it because they needed the engineering resources to use elsewhere, as they are so far behind on their multiplayer plans.

Technically they never said it wouldn't come back at a later point. Just that right now they have stopped development on it.

To me it sounds like they were overshooting in their promises but have been underdelivering and delaying on those promises.

 

[SmooTh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570028404228952067

 

[BRiT]

Not specific to this latest event, but it's kind of funny how much Linked-In Developer Stalking goes on. You don't see that happen for most industries.

 

[iroboto]

when you've been ground into the floor and everyone hates what you've grinded your life away for, you're bound to leave.
From a career perspective, you're likely to look elsewhere. That's not to say 343i can't right the ship, MS and Xbox righted very quickly, but some folks just don't want to go through that rebuilding process.
Like any sporting team, you're going to have people that are ring chasers, and they got far in the playoffs and now the contracts are all expired the team is going through rebuilding. Will be a long wait for that next opportunity.

Lots of shit to fix at 343i at an organizational level. They will also go through a lot of churn, leadership need to be make some big changes and talk about big picture items to keep people to stay onboard. Undoubtedly, people will leave during this change over from Bonnie.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

Not specific to this latest event, but it's kind of funny how much Linked-In Developer Stalking goes on. You don't see that happen for most industries.

It is really common across aerospace, defence, semiconductor design and other high tech industries.

It's why LinkedIn exists!

 

[BRiT]

It is really common across aerospace, defence, semiconductor design and other high tech industries.

It's why LinkedIn exists!

That boggles my mind. I mean I get why folks inside a specific industry kind of keep a tab on others in that industry. But to have lay-persons watching every single move for folks they don't know as if they're public celebrities, athletes, or performers seems quite odd.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

That boggles my mind. I mean I get why folks inside a specific industry kind of keep a tab on others in that industry. But to have lay-persons watching every single move for folks they don't know as if they're public celebrities, athletes, or performers seems quite odd.

The Windows Central article cites the game website Lords of Gaming as having reported this. I've never heard of it but I'm guessing it's a small site that doesn't have a plethora of reporters or contributors like IGN. Keeping tabs in LinkedIn for key figures at key companies is probably an low-effort way to generate stories.

 

[eastmen]

My guess is next year or something they will come out and enable this but only on the series consoles and say something like the fans demanded it.
But I am sure more resources are getting rampped up for the new halo

 

[orangpelupa]

Theoretically, they can release halo infinite coop SKU, and label it as early access and simply expose the menu to use split screen coop, right?

With huge red warnings of the most severe bugs, like BOTH CONTROLLERS MUST BE LOGGED IN. Otherwise your save will get corrupted

 

[Deleted member 11852]

With huge red warnings of the most severe bugs, like BOTH CONTROLLERS MUST BE LOGGED IN. Otherwise your save will get corrupted

Not being a multiplayer person I've not been paying any attention to this split screen stuff, but is this the bug? If so, how weird. It's not the first time I've seen a controller-related bug, I remember the original Rollercoaster Tycoon could crash is run on a PC with a gamepad attached which drove me bonkers for days before successfully diagnosing it.

 

[orangpelupa]

Not being a multiplayer person I've not been paying any attention to this split screen stuff, but is this the bug? If so, how weird. It's not the first time I've seen a controller-related bug, I remember the original Rollercoaster Tycoon could crash is run on a PC with a gamepad attached which drove me bonkers for days before successfully diagnosing it.

probably there are more bugs than that. but that bug has been in halo infinite since people tried the splitscreen coop since launch long time ago, and the bug is still there when tested aftere the splitscreen cancellation. despite other stuff, like story cammpaign progression and achievemnts has been fixed in the latest build where they cancelled he splitxcren