Had development continued, could DC have rivalled PS2?

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Back to DC topic, VF4 on DC???? WTF?? are there any screens? RoVOKOR if it can prove the VF4 on DC or PS2 once and for all! :oops:
 
don't wan't to sound like a scratched record here but what your basis of the 'optimised' assertion?

In some interview prior to SC2 release, Namco staffs went on the record to say the game maxxed out the PS2 based on their codes, or something. It is true, take it if you well. :oops:
 
chaphack said:
Res does matter imo. Very much so.

In any case SC2 is a PS2 optimize port(maxxed out) and the fact that Xbox can do it and bettAR! Not bad considering that most, if not all, ports to PS2 are pisspoor.

regarding res IMHO filtering is far more important if you want to maintain a reasonable display standard without fragmenting the usersbase.


not all of us have/intend to buy HDTV/progressive any time soon.

*shrugs* different priorities I guess
 
chaphack said:
don't wan't to sound like a scratched record here but what your basis of the 'optimised' assertion?

In some interview prior to SC2 release, Namco staffs went on the record to say the game maxxed out the PS2 based on their codes, or something. It is true, take it if you well. :oops:



er.............. maxing out a platform with a fighting game like SC2 is pretty hilarious.....
and as good as SC2 looks, i'm sorry to say that some games are doing much much more without maxxxxing the hardware... but well if thinking that SC2 maxes out PS2 makes u feel better on your purchase of the Xbox, then go for it... i'm cool with it
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chaphack said:
don't wan't to sound like a scratched record here but what your basis of the 'optimised' assertion?

In some interview prior to SC2 release, Namco staffs went on the record to say the game maxxed out the PS2 based on their codes, or something. It is true, take it if you well. :oops:

yea I know, but given that dev PR is 90% BS anyhow, I tend to take it with a grain of salt. recall tecmo's claims of maxing out their DOA2 port springs to mind.

on topic:

one word..no
 
Oh please, it was not me who said the maxxed thing. Namco developers are the ones. A fighting maxxing out a hardware is nothing unbelievable. It is just another genre with another way of displaying graphics.

Sometimes i find it funny, some would go yuppy when certain developers said positive things about a console, but whenever developers go on a reccord to say their codes maxxed out the PS2, the Pshordes will always be ready to jump on it! "OH nEVER it S not maXXed out! I knOW FOR SuRe! I pLAY the gamES! Fook THouse who made the game! PS2 haS more unTApped powers!"

Same with GTAVC, same with GT4 and now SC2. :LOL:
 
not really talking about fighters but games in general.

a game like ZOE2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2... bigger areas, more enemies, millions of particles flying around...

a game like Jak2 or R&C2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2.... still we have confirmation from Naughty Dog that not even Jak2 is maxing out PS2...

now it's all down to who u trust...

personally i trust my eyes only... then again, if some people need reasons to feel better about their purchases, then fine, u believe what u want to believe.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Evil_Cloud said:
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If you compare PS2 version of Sonic Heroes and Soul Calibur 2 with the GameCube and Xbox versions, there is no doubt that PS2 is getting old.
Didn't Maskrider have pictures comparing SC2 on different platforms, it looks more or less identical on all platforms. If anything the GC version suffers from minor blurriness.
PS2 pics might even look a litle bit clearer than xbox version (Edit for chap: not counting xbox progressive scan 4:3 option)
In light of SC2, there is no doubt PS2 is more than keeping up with xbox and GC.

But at what cost? :LOL:

Slowdown's like ETM bullet time effects, darn long loading times and some other bugs... Xbox and GameCube are clearly better
 
london-boy said:
not really talking about fighters but games in general.

a game like ZOE2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2... bigger areas, more enemies, millions of particles flying around...

a game like Jak2 or R&C2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2.... still we have confirmation from Naughty Dog that not even Jak2 is maxing out PS2...

now it's all down to who u trust...

personally i trust my eyes only... then again, if some people need reasons to feel better about their purchases, then fine, u believe what u want to believe.


We should compare apples to apples.
 
Sometimes i find it funny, some would go yuppy when certain developers said positive things about a console, but whenever developers go on a reccord to say their codes maxxed out the PS2, the Pshordes will always be ready to jump on it! "OH nEVER it S not maXXed out! I knOW FOR SuRe! I pLAY the gamES! Fook THouse who made the game! PS2 haS more unTApped powers!"

there will always 'Pshordes' as you put it, of wannabes whom jump on such claims.

FYI I'll do think that devs are maturing of the PS2 dev process and we are starting to see the ceiling on performence here.
 
SC2 is visually and technically the best fighter on PS2. period. Different genres, different benchmarks. To mention ZOE2 is funny, 480i, slowdowns, crappy textures, tons of lowpoly enemies, same enclosed arenas. Big deal, as i said different benchmarks.


then again, if some people need reasons to feel better about their purchases, then fine, u believe what u want to believe.
yeppers! PS2 has more untapped powers! Cant wait for more evolutionary graphics! Fook those developers. :oops:
 
PC-Engine said:
Which fighter on PS2 looks better than SC2?
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, that's for sure

chaphack said:
Back to DC topic, VF4 on DC???? WTF?? are there any screens? RoVOKOR if it can prove the VF4 on DC or PS2 once and for all! :oops:

I'll make pics of the covers... and I'll try to find a way to take ingame screenshots

PS2 VF4 is sort of a port of the DC version (90 to 95% completed)

It looks a lot more like the arcade version... better :)
Offcourse, AM2 had more experience with DC then with PS2...
 
PC-Engine said:
london-boy said:
not really talking about fighters but games in general.

a game like ZOE2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2... bigger areas, more enemies, millions of particles flying around...

a game like Jak2 or R&C2 is doing MUCH MUCH more than SC2.... still we have confirmation from Naughty Dog that not even Jak2 is maxing out PS2...

now it's all down to who u trust...

personally i trust my eyes only... then again, if some people need reasons to feel better about their purchases, then fine, u believe what u want to believe.


We should compare apples to apples.
Indeed, platform with platform games
fighter with fighter games

and so on...
 
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, that's for sure

IF VF4E runs at full progressive display, has better textures, backgrounds and more snazzy lighting effects, then yeah. ;)

As me and PCengine said, apples to oranges! Love em. :oops:
 
chaphack said:
Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, that's for sure

IF VF4E runs at full progressive display, has better textures, backgrounds and more snazzy lighting effects, then yeah. ;)

As me and PCengine said, apples to oranges! Love em. :oops:

I played it, and it looked really impressive...
Wasn't the PAL version going to get Full progressive scan? :/
 
we can compare apples to apples. and ZOE2 structure is not all that different from SC2 in general terms. u still control a character who's fighting something...

the fact that in ZOE2 u fight LOADS of characters (like 50 at times) and have a gazillion of cool special effects is what i call *DOING MORE*. and thats why i say that SC2 is not maxing out the hardware as much as ZOE2. and if it is, i'm sorry to say i'm not impressed..
 
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