Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

[gleemax]

Strange how PS2 still hasn't got a 10 from IGN.

Neither has Xbox, GC, or GBA. Yet a bunch of GBC games got tens. (Um... yeah.)

IGN's scores are messed up. If a game works, it gets a six. If it doesn't completely blow, it gets a seven. If it lasts longer than two hours, it gets an eight. If it's been hyped for the past year or two (or the budget is in the millions), it gets 9+.

To get a perfect ten, apparently it needs to be a GameBoy Color game.

I like X-Play and GameSpot. I don't always agree with either, but at least they don't inflate every game's score like IGN does.

 

[London Geezer]

Strange how PS2 still hasn't got a 10 from IGN.

Neither has Xbox, GC, or GBA. Yet a bunch of GBC games got tens. (Um... yeah.)

IGN's scores are messed up. If a game works, it gets a six. If it doesn't completely blow, it gets a seven. If it lasts longer than two hours, it gets an eight. If it's been hyped for the past year or two (or the budget is in the millions), it gets 9+.

To get a perfect ten, apparently it needs to be a GameBoy Color game.

I like X-Play and GameSpot. I don't always agree with either, but at least they don't inflate every game's score like IGN does.

Didn't Halo get a 10?

 

[gleemax]

Didn't Halo get a 10?

They gave Halo a 9.7. Of course I had to look that up.

 

[ChryZ]

No game deserves a perfect score.

 

[McFly]

Damn, this game features anything:

Yeah, that's base jumping.

Fredi

 

[London Geezer]

[graphic whore]

Luk at taht fogg!!!1111!!1!1!!!!

[/graphic whore]

 

[gleemax]

No game deserves a perfect score.

In your opinion. Which is all reviews are. Does a "perfect" score mean a game is perfect? I see it more as a 0-10 scale of "we think you shouldn't buy this" to "we think you should buy this" and less of an art thing. So, if you think a game is really awesome, and it doesn't cost $500, and it's not half an hour long, why not give it the highest score? By saying "no game deserves a perfect score," you have effectively changed a scale of 0-10 to a scale of 0-9.9. Which is silly. I could say no game deserves anything over an 8.5. Would that make any less sense?

That's why I like granular scores. For example: 1-5, with no fractions. If a game is average, it gets a 3. If it's good, it gets a 4, if it's great, 5. If it's bad, 2. If it's awful (or doesn't work), 1. None of this 9.6 and 9.7 crap. It's hard to quantify the difference between scores like 3.3 and 3.4. There's more detail than anyone needs. Why not just say they both suck? Debating whether a game is a 9.9 or a 10 is just as silly as debating whether it should be a 3.3 or 3.4. In the first case, the message is that it's a great game. In the second case, the message is that it's a bad game.

 

[London Geezer]

No game deserves a perfect score.

In your opinion. Which is all reviews are. Does a "perfect" score mean a game is perfect? I see it more as a 0-10 scale of "we think you shouldn't buy this" to "we think you should buy this" and less of an art thing. So, if you think a game is really awesome, and it doesn't cost $500, and it's not half an hour long, why not give it the highest score? By saying "no game deserves a perfect score," you have effectively changed a scale of 0-10 to a scale of 0-9.9. Which is silly. I could say no game deserves anything over an 8.5. Would that make any less sense?

That's why I like granular scores. For example: 1-5, with no fractions. If a game is average, it gets a 3. If it's good, it gets a 4, if it's great, 5. If it's bad, 2. If it's awful (or doesn't work), 1. None of this 9.6 and 9.7 crap. It's hard to quantify the difference between scores like 3.3 and 3.4. There's more detail than anyone needs. Why not just say they both suck? Debating whether a game is a 9.9 or a 10 is just as silly as debating whether it should be a 3.3 or 3.4. In the first case, the message is that it's a great game. In the second case, the message is that it's a bad game.

So so so true.

It's all down to a simple "if you like this, you will/not like that". None of this 8.125^-4 crap...

 

[-tkf-]

That's why I like granular scores.

Good points!

1 2 or 3, that should do it...

I remember Zzap64, you had no doubt if they liked the game or if it was average. Of course back then things were different.. the money involved wasn't as big and it was mostly real "geek" gamers reviewing games for other geeks (it was geeks back then )

 

[ChryZ]

In your opinion. Which is all reviews are. Does a "perfect" score mean a game is perfect? I see it more as a 0-10 scale of "we think you shouldn't buy this" to "we think you should buy this" and less of an art thing. So, if you think a game is really awesome, and it doesn't cost $500, and it's not half an hour long, why not give it the highest score? By saying "no game deserves a perfect score," you have effectively changed a scale of 0-10 to a scale of 0-9.9. Which is silly. I could say no game deserves anything over an 8.5. Would that make any less sense?

That's why I like granular scores. For example: 1-5, with no fractions. If a game is average, it gets a 3. If it's good, it gets a 4, if it's great, 5. If it's bad, 2. If it's awful (or doesn't work), 1. None of this 9.6 and 9.7 crap. It's hard to quantify the difference between scores like 3.3 and 3.4. There's more detail than anyone needs. Why not just say they both suck? Debating whether a game is a 9.9 or a 10 is just as silly as debating whether it should be a 3.3 or 3.4. In the first case, the message is that it's a great game. In the second case, the message is that it's a bad game.

Nice speach, but I hadn't the fraction-madness in mind ... to me a 10/10 means "as good as it gets", something hard to believe. Just my 0.02€.

 

[-tkf-]

Nice speach, but I hadn't the fraction-madness in mind ... to me a 10/10 means "as good as it gets", something hard to believe. Just my 0.02€.

As good as it gets... for the time being... nothing to it really, you want reviewers to review into the future?

 

[cthellis42]

To get a perfect ten, apparently it needs to be a GameBoy Color game.

Or Soul Calibur. Or Zelda: Ocarine of Time.

 

[AlNom]

As good as it gets... for the time being... nothing to it really, you want reviewers to review into the future?

and as t goes to infinity, game scores go to zero, so the limit is zero!

 

[London Geezer]

Nice speach, but I hadn't the fraction-madness in mind ... to me a 10/10 means "as good as it gets", something hard to believe. Just my 0.02€.

So any teacher in the world should never give perfect 10s out because there could always be something better in the future?
For games, obviously as technology progresses, then games will get better, but that means that since i know that in 2009 Ps3 will have a game that's 10 times better than GTASA, i should give GTASA a 5 now cause it's got lots of room for improvement...?

Doesn't make any sense.

Reviews should go at least by generation. If the reviewer thinks that GTASA is the best game this generation (which is already 4 years old by the way, so there is not much more room for improvement), then it should get a 10, regardless of the fact that "there could be better games coming out later on".

 

[ChryZ]

I am not talking about reference to future titles either, interesting what kind of reactions my remarks sparked. When you review a game, you are rating all kinds of stuff: graphics, sound, gameplay, value, etc etc ... giving a game a perfect score, is just weird ... this is software we are talking about, there is always room for improvement (this gen, next gen, whatever). There are many, many great games out there, but hardly any of them could be described as perfect.

 

[London Geezer]

I am not talking about reference to future titles either, interesting what kind of reactions my remarks sparked. When you review a game, you are rating all kinds of stuff: graphics, sound, gameplay, value, etc etc ... giving a game a perfect score, is just weird ... this is software we are talking about, there is always room for improvement (this gen, next gen, whatever). There are many, many great games out there, but hardly any of them could be described as perfect.

I guess it all comes down to the purpose of the review.
If it's a review based on the "artistic", on the fundamental existance of each game, then perhaps no game deserves a perfect 10. But then, nothing deserves a perfect 10.
If it's a review with the purpose of advising the reader on whether or not to buy the game, compared to other titles, then the perfect 10 should be used as a mean to say "You absolutely HAVE to buy this game, if you don't you're a loser". Which i find acceptable.

 

[ChryZ]

Fair enough ... I guess

 

[rabidrabbit]

I've heard you can find a double ended dildo from some cop's showeroom closet
I suppose there is a gay club somewhere in the game (there must be, as one of the cities is sort of San Fransisco). I can't wait to pump my character to a muscular hunk and go there with the dildo!

 

[McFly]

This made me laugh:

You can date girls in this game, and i was dating this real ghetto ass chick, and on the 1st two dates I took her to a fast food joint in the ghetto and she enjoyed her self. So I decided see how deep this A.I. was so I got a fancy ass car, and took her out to Rodeo(Beverly Hills more or less) to this fancy restraunt..So the date cutscene ensues and shes not having a good time at all. Once its over shes like "You aint got no taste nigga take me home"

So naturally I punch the bitch..Well A message pops saying "She no longer wants you to take her home you guys are over". And she begins to run, I chase after her, punching her and this cop whos in the area runs up telling me to stop. I keep hitting her until the cop starts hitting me, So I start fighting the cop, and she takes off running, I shoot and kill the cop but a stray bullet hit this pick-up truck which causes the driver to peel out...LMFAO...Just so happen is the girl is still running down the street and he runs right over her killing her.

Fredi

 

[London Geezer]

My god!!! I might just pick this up for PC....