Future of 3D gaming and media *spawn

[patsu]

Passive 3DTV from Vizio:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/16/vizios-m-series-theater-3d-tvs-are-officially-available-at-las/

Last CES Vizio announced a slew of new LCD HDTVs with its passive glasses-compatible Theater 3D capabilities and Vizio Internet Apps built in, and now it's finally ready to announced the M-series midrange lineup is shipping nationwide. M3D models in various 40- and 50-inch sizes have been popping up over the last few weeks, featuring edge LED backlighting for between $1,039 (42-inch) and $1,649 (55-inch). Need something bigger on your wall? There's also a 65-inch version on the way in 2012, with a pricetag of $2,099.

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[patsu]

This visor gets the programmability and see-through capability right.


Epson Introduces 3D Visor
http://www.techbargains.com/news/275313?r1=1

Epson Japan has introduced the Moverio, a see through 3D head mounted display that can simulate the experience of watching 2D or 3D pictures on a virtual 80 inch display 5 meters away. The Moverio displays images on .52 inch displays that have a native resolution of 960x540, and handles MPEG-4 video files, as well as AAC and MP3 audio files. However, unlike Sony's device, you will have the option to see through the glasses to observe what's going on around you.

The Moverio also comes with a small controller packing 1GB of internal memory, a microSD card slot, microUSB, full Wi-Fi support and is powered by Android 2.2. Unlike other head mounted displays, the Moverio is also designed to be very light and small -- its dimensions are 205x178x47mm and it weighs 240 grams. The controller for the headset is tiny as well, measuring 67x107x19mm and weighs 160g. Epson plans on releasing the device in Japanese stores on November 25 for $770, making it much cheaper than other recently released head mounted displays as well.

EDIT:
A zoomable visor would enhance navigation, scouting, live sports and concert experiences too !

 

[patsu]

Vivitar unveils affordable 3D camera and video recorder
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/vivitar-unveils-affordable-3d-camera-and-video-recorder/

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Starting with the VT135, the point-and-shoot camera features a 12.1MP image sensor with a 5x digital zoom and a 2.7” display at the back. Next up will be the 790HD which a 5.1MP video recorder with 4x zoom and a 2.7” display at the back. Both devices will be able to capture and record in 3D, so if you want those holiday photos and videos to stand out, either the VT135 or 790HD could be considered.

The good news is that both the VT135 and 790HD will cost $99 each, so if you’re interested in picking up either device, they will be available from your local Target store.

 

[upnorthsox]

This visor gets the programmability and see-through capability right.


Epson Introduces 3D Visor
http://www.techbargains.com/news/275313?r1=1



EDIT:
A zoomable visor would enhance navigation, scouting, live sports and concert experiences too !

I like the size but not the resolution and it doesn't say whether it's oled. I'll need more info.

 

[patsu]

Yes sir.

Now that I know "perfect" 3D can be achieved, I am most interested in the harness. The Moverio uses an eye glasses approach, which may be annoying to the nose like Active 3D glasses. Some people complained about the weight when these glasses was/is about 50-80g. The Moverio weighs 240g.

The HMZ-T1 adopts a head band approach to secure the unit. When worn correctly, it floats above the nose even though it's heavier (420g). I hear people complaining about the head pad pressing against their forehead.

A few early adopters wear the HMZ-T1 with a baseball cap to secure it better (or rather easier to secure), and also distribute the weight more evenly. I consider this the "wear it like a hat" approach.

More R&D in this area would be welcomed.

 

[upnorthsox]

Yes sir.

Now that I know "perfect" 3D can be achieved, I am most interested in the harness. The Moverio uses an eye glasses approach, which may be annoying to the nose like Active 3D glasses. Some people complained about the weight when these glasses were/are about 50-80g. The Moverio is 240g.

The HMZ-T1 adopts a head band approach to secure the unit. When worn correctly, it floats above the nose even though it's heavier (420g). I hear people complaining about the head pad pressing against their forehead.

A few early adopters wear the HMZ-T1 with a baseball cap to secure it better (or rather easier to secure), and also distribute the weight more evenly. I consider this the "wear it like a hat" approach.

More R&D in this area would be welcomed.

The wear it like a hat approach seems like a good way to go, its something the average joe can understand and relate. I've always felt that a sufficient amount of weight could be moved to the back. With the 3d shutter glasses, a wire loop with a watch sized device housing your electronics/battery could be attached like how glasses have strings. With a wear itr like a hat, you could move things more up top concealed/sewn in to the hat part.

 

[patsu]

Yes, hat approach seems most friendly (although some may not like to mess up their hair). They can also consider a hybrid approach so that people can pick their preferred methods.

It would be interesting if Sony release a line of "bionic" product that combines HMZ-T1 and Moverio. Sightseeing would be more interesting if I can zoom in and record video anytime I want.

They can add a mic for voice input.

If enough people wear it to a sports/concert event, we would have multiple angle of the same event over the Internet. ;-)

Spoiler

(Make a cheap skate hologram)

I can buy cheap tickets and decide my own viewing angle too.

 

[upnorthsox]

It would also put the hands within 3 ft of the stereo cams, that should be close enough to give good fidelity for finger recognition. There's alot of potential.

 

[patsu]

Yes, motion interface would complement the concept well if it can track with good accuracy and speed. I am most keen on retina tracking, but it may lack accuracy to do detailed tracking (e.g., moving cursor).

(3D) AR ideas will work too (Control via physical object manipulation):

 

[patsu]

Hack your monitor and 3D glasses, ensure ultimate privacy
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/26/hack-your-monitor-and-3d-glasses-ensure-ultimate-privacy/

You've always wanted a bit more privacy with your monitor (porn jokes notwithstanding) and if you're willing to tear apart a spare LCD monitor and a pair of 3D theater glasses (thanks, Dreamworks and Pixar!), you'll get it.

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The result is an LCD monitor that displays a white screen to anyone not wearing the customized glasses, your actions being confidential, no matter what they might happen to be. ...

 

[patsu]

Yes sir.

Now that I know "perfect" 3D can be achieved, I am most interested in the harness. The Moverio uses an eye glasses approach, which may be annoying to the nose like Active 3D glasses. Some people complained about the weight when these glasses was/is about 50-80g. The Moverio weighs 240g.

The HMZ-T1 adopts a head band approach to secure the unit. When worn correctly, it floats above the nose even though it's heavier (420g). I hear people complaining about the head pad pressing against their forehead.

A few early adopters wear the HMZ-T1 with a baseball cap to secure it better (or rather easier to secure), and also distribute the weight more evenly. I consider this the "wear it like a hat" approach.

More R&D in this area would be welcomed.

The AVS forum has some user created examples.

This one seems ok:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=21266201&postcount=962

He added the top strap to provide better support and weight distribution. However, he needs to rest the unit a little on the nose.

 

[upnorthsox]

Reading thru that avsforum thread, it looks like Sony may already be coming out with a new version.

Obviously they need a better harness system and adjustments.

For gaming, head tracking and a mic are no brainers.

Probably a better setup for the headphones too.

Those three areas should be able to be updated at no/little cost.

Additional would be a 3d passthru. That would certainly be a cost item and to get full use you'd want to be able to interact which would require two-way communication.

Down the road, wireless would be nice but That tech isn't here yet for what you'd need.

For me, the $800 price is not as much an issue as not having all the needed functionality. I'll wait and see what the new model(s) offer.

 

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Without having tested one - personally I think the resolution is the thing I'd like upgraded the most.

720p is fine for me with 2D gaming, but it seems like I'm terribly short-sighted when I game at that res in 3D. Change to 1080p and it's possible to focus on things in the middle distance. Not sure I could cope with going back to 720 even if it gets rid of ghosting.

I could see myself getting a 1080p unit in a couple of years.

 

[patsu]

Reading thru that avsforum thread, it looks like Sony may already be coming out with a new version.

Really ? Show me the link please ! ^_^

Obviously they need a better harness system and adjustments.

For gaming, head tracking and a mic are no brainers.

Probably a better setup for the headphones too.

Those three areas should be able to be updated at no/little cost.

Additional would be a 3d passthru. That would certainly be a cost item and to get full use you'd want to be able to interact which would require two-way communication.

Down the road, wireless would be nice but That tech isn't here yet for what you'd need.

For me, the $800 price is not as much an issue as not having all the needed functionality. I'll wait and see what the new model(s) offer.

Right after harness and weight reduction, integration for general computing use is extremely important for me. Would love it if I can plug Vita or a Android device to the unit instead of the HMZ audio processing box.

 

[patsu]

Without having tested one - personally I think the resolution is the thing I'd like upgraded the most.

720p is fine for me with 2D gaming, but it seems like I'm terribly short-sighted when I game at that res in 3D. Change to 1080p and it's possible to focus on things in the middle distance. Not sure I could cope with going back to 720 even if it gets rid of ghosting.

I could see myself getting a 1080p unit in a couple of years.

Perhaps ! But resolution on this thing is not really a problem because the pixel density is high. It's very very sharp. 1080p would be a plus, but I think not a deal breaker. If you test one, you'll probably see that the harness (comfort level and focus adjustment) is the #1 concern, and then to justify for the price, its utility. Watching 2D/3D movies doesn't look terribly worthwhile to many people for 800 bucks. 3D gaming is more engaging (I see people going gaga over 3D Skyrim), but roaming computing use may be even more interesting.

 

[upnorthsox]

Really ? Show me the link please ! ^_^



Right after harness and weight reduction, integration for general computing use is extremely important for me. Would love it if I can plug Vita or a Android device to the unit instead of the HMZ audio processing box.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21250872#post21250872

Just ordered one today (Canada). The Sony guy on the phone told me that Canada is getting another 50 in over the next few days, 14 of them had been preordered and were spoken for.

The one thing he did tell me that I found strange is that he heard that after this batch, there will be no more coming in and that a newer model will be released next year around October made more for gaming (head tracking).

I don't know the validity of his statement but I found it interesting.

There were a few others after that who were told the same thing.

Yes I wonder what's in the processor unit, being able to run it directly from Vita would be huge for both units. Combine it with passthru and you could do some truly amazing stuff. The cool thing is that the tech is all here now, it just needs to be packaged, interfaced, and presented properly.

 

[patsu]

Cool ! October is a long time away though. 8^/

720p should be the primary mode to save battery life and processing power. Live camera feed may look awkward if we scale too much.

EDIT: I saw a new shipment of 6 HMZ-T1s in the Palo Alto SonyStyle last weekend. Was tempted to buy but resisted. ^_^

 

[upnorthsox]

Cool ! October is a long time away though. 8^/

720p should be the primary mode to save battery life and processing power. Live camera feed may look awkward if we scale too much.

EDIT: I saw a new shipment of 6 HMZ-T1s in the Palo Alto SonyStyle last weekend. Was tempted to buy but resisted. ^_^

Look at the prices on eBay, it'd be worth your while just to flip it and use that money for the enhanced version.

 

[patsu]

Yeah $1000+ in US, and $3000 in UK. Too bad I don't trust eBay. ^_^

Have a friend who needed to have police help chase his stuff back.

 

[patsu]

Acer's 27-inch HR274H monitor promises to do 2D-to-3D conversion on the fly
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/30/acers-27-inch-hr274h-monitor-promises-to-do-2d-to-3d-conversion/

It likely won't win over anyone who isn't too fond of 3D to begin with, but those looking for some additional quasi-3D content beyond the standard fare now have a new option to consider in the form of Acer's 27-inch HR274H monitor. It not only includes a set of passive, polarized 3D glasses, but what Acer describes as its own "chip-based solution" that promises to convert all 2D content to 3D in real time (it can be switched on and off on the monitor itself). Unfortunately, there's no word yet as to how well the effect works, and the monitor's specs are otherwise decidedly ordinary for the rather high $599 price tag

[size=-2]I bought my Acer 3D monitor for $700+ without 2D-3D conversion but it's active glasses[/size]


Exclusive Best Buy PlayStation 3D Display Offer
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/11/30/exclusive-best-buy-playstation-3d-display-offer/

our friends at Best Buy are offering a new promotion to celebrate. While supplies last, customers who purchase a 3D Display will be able to purchase a PS3 for only $100. A fantastic offer for those wanting to experience 3D gaming and entertainment right out of the box.