Full ATI DR Presentation ( slides )

IMHO you should have released all 16 slides to begin with. It just seems shady to release only the one slide out of context when you had the other 15 slides available to begin with.

Kind of reminds me of something from high school journalism class. The Headline:

Principal Caught Stealing....



second base in faculty vs. student baseball game

 

Do people not know how to rotate anymore?

 

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Nevermind

 

UTTAR thanks for posting this it puts both dw/elitebastard and ati into a full perspective

 

Good point, of course, and should be an object lesson as to how rumor and gossip is handled when it is distributed. It's either so incomplete that understanding it in context is impossible, or it's unsupportable speculation masquerading as "insider info," or it's entirely true. Unfortunately, because it is rumor, it's not possible to immediately distinguish the proper category into which the rumor should fall. IMO, it's safer, then, to just disreguard it until it can be verified appropriately.

 

Since I don't have the larger frameworks of your comment, nor appropriate verification from official sources, I'm afraid I must disregard this.

 

I place you right there with the initial leaker as one of those persons seeking attention.
You:"Hey!! look at me i magnanimously decide to release the rest of the slides to stop the controversy. Aren't i swell?"

The public:

 

Uttar,

Took me a while, but I finally got around reading the presentation. (been a bit busy "shifting gears" and all that ) Before making any comments I'd love to know how this presentation was used within ATI? i.e. is this solely for internal purposes, or has this been covered with external parties like developers or retail? Also, I've seen speculation that some Nvidia personnel might have been involved in leaking this out? Any truth to that?

Sorry, if these topics have been beaten to death already as I'm a bit late into the discussion, but I'd really appreciate a short sum up of events until now.

Cheers,

AJ

 

I agree that all the slides should have been released at once, but i hardly think it warrants all the hate that's flying around in the forums. If you've lost all respect for Uttar over this, i doubt you had much to begin with.

Personally, i'm thankful the whole thing came to light - regardless of how it got here.

 

It seems very back-assward to me that NVIDIA personnel should be in any way 'authorising' leaks of ATI confidential information, but maybe that's just me.

 

Security must be rather compromised at ATI if Nvidia regularly gets its hands on internal data before ATI's partners do.

As for ATI's delaying the R400 after learning the easily matched specs of NV40: curse Nvidia's oft-delayed hardware design pipeline, because of them I won't see R400 for who knows how many product refresh cycles.

 

Its more to do with the slated release of DX10 (which still wasn't clear in early '03) and the fact that by March ATI were already well entrenched in development of the XBox2 part.

 

Thanks for a good wrap-up. In this case I guess I'm a bit more interested on how this kind of leaks happen than the actual material itself.

I still find it amazing that so much classified information makes its way to the forums, but this explains it somewhat.

In general I'm torn between the curiosity and the ethics here. Yes, it's certainly interesting to stay aware of everything that goes on in the industry, but I'm not really quite comfortable with the competitive companies disseminating internal classified information from their rivals. That just doesn't seem quite right...

Cheers,

AJ