Dare to dream, Kaotik.
Qualifying 1. Alonso; 2. Massa; 3. whatever;
Race: 1. Alonso; 2. Massa; 3 whatever
At least my dreams are more realistic than yours
Formula 1 - 2013 Season
- Thread starter Dave Baumann
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At least my dreams are more realistic than yours
3 tenths behind Hamilton who was out at the same time though...
I think it's safe to say that the question over whether Red Bull Racing were sandbagging in preseason testing has been answered already.
McLaren's are nowhere. Both Merc's out. At least Lotus and Ferrari look like they are somewhat close to the RB's....
McLaren's are nowhere. Both Merc's out. At least Lotus and Ferrari look like they are somewhat close to the RB's....
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Didn't Hamilton score his time quite a bit later?
Anyway, practice 1:
1 Vettel, S. Red Bull Racing 1:27.211 16
2 Massa, F. Ferrari +0.078 17
3 Alonso, F. Ferrari +0.336 16
4 Hamilton, L. Mercedes GP +0.341 18
5 Webber, M. Red Bull Racing +0.457 18
6 Räikkönen, K. Lotus F1 +0.666 17
7 Rosberg, N. Mercedes GP +0.802 17
8 Sutil, A. Force India +1.215 19
9 Button, J. McLaren +1.229 19
10 Grosjean, R. Lotus F1 +1.309 15
11 Perez, S. McLaren +1.386 19
12 Hulkenberg, N. Sauber F1 +1.575 19
13 Di Resta, P. Force India +1.699 18
14 Maldonado, P. Williams +2.232 20
15 Bottas, Valtteri Williams +2.717 19
16 Gutierrez, Esteban Sauber F1 +2.992 17
17 Vergne, J. E. Toro Rosso +3.518 17
18 Ricciardo, D. Toro Rosso +3.758 19
19 Bianchi, Jules Marussia F1 +4.052 24
20 Chilton, Max Marussia F1 +4.965 23
21 Pic, Charles Caterham +5.063 21
22 Van Der Garde, Giedo Caterham +5.177 18
Practice 2:
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1.25,908 33
2. Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault +0,264 31
3. Nico Rosberg Mercedes +0,414 26
4. Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault +0,453 38
5. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault +0,772 32
6. Fernando Alonso Ferrari +0,840 35
7. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes +0,864 28
8. Felipe Massa Ferrari +0,947 32
9. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes +1,527 35
10. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari +2,279 34
11. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes +2,386 30
12. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes +2,403 37
13. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes +2,658 33
14. Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari +2,719 31
15. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari +2,864 33
16. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault +2,944 36
17. Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari +3,060 36
18. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault +3,478 39
19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth +3,788 32
20. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault +4,257 37
21. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth +4,692 36
22. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault +6,542 11
Nah it was only 3-4 minutes after Raikkonen's fastest in P1 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21770644 (scroll down to 0226).
RBR look to be 3/10ths up on the rest. Ferrari, Lotus and Merc are all on near-identical pace. Sauber, Force India and McLaren are just under a second behind them on similar pace as well.
One glimmer of hope for the rest was Vettel's tyres looked to be in a terrible state during the long run, and both the Lotus and Ferrari looked good in that regard. I would guess a 3 stopper is on the cards for them while the other's might get away with a 2.
The odds reflect the changes in performance as well - Vettel has shortened slightly and Hamilton has replaced Button as 3rd favourite - http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one/drivers-championship
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AFAIS, Vettel was cutting a corner on his fastest lap (all 4 wheels off the track). That might have gained him a bit, putting him at least closer to Webber. It's yet to be seen though if that area is allowed during qualifying or not - though from what I've seen, others werent' cutting it the way Vettel was. Sorry no link for this - but there's a video on Youtube (recorded from Sky's feed) that shows this.
I think McLaren are in trouble, going by Buttons words. Given that he isn't the driver that is too happy with a car that isn't behaving the way he likes it, I think this could be a black weekend for them if they don't get their car sorted by tomorrow....
BTW: Very impressed with Sutils pace, compared to DiRestas.
Yep Di Resta just isn't fast enough for F1. He was comprehensively beaten by Hulk last season and in the previous season Sutil scored more points than him. I expect this to be his last season unless things improve dramatically.
I missed Vettel cutting the corner but it was on his 2nd flying lap on super softs anyway - on the previous lap he was up almost 4/10ths going into the final sector but was held up.
The big hope for me is that his heavy fueled pace didn't look all that fantastic compared to the Ferrari or the Lotus. Also if Rosberg is only 3-4 tenths behind then you'd expect Hamilton to be level once he gets to grip with the car.
It probably won't be a lot different from many races last season where the RB was fast in qualifying but not quite so fast in the race. The Lotus appears to have genuine race pace but might be lacking over a qualifying lap. Ferrari look to be in a good overall position but I wonder if Alonso might be in decline compared to Vettel and Hamilton who are still rising.
Good chance of rain for qualifying and the race however.
I missed Vettel cutting the corner but it was on his 2nd flying lap on super softs anyway - on the previous lap he was up almost 4/10ths going into the final sector but was held up.
The big hope for me is that his heavy fueled pace didn't look all that fantastic compared to the Ferrari or the Lotus. Also if Rosberg is only 3-4 tenths behind then you'd expect Hamilton to be level once he gets to grip with the car.
It probably won't be a lot different from many races last season where the RB was fast in qualifying but not quite so fast in the race. The Lotus appears to have genuine race pace but might be lacking over a qualifying lap. Ferrari look to be in a good overall position but I wonder if Alonso might be in decline compared to Vettel and Hamilton who are still rising.
Good chance of rain for qualifying and the race however.
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Vettel with a car problem at the end of 3rd practice. Pretty much a washout with rain after 15 mins, and qualifying on a damp track by the looks of it. Hopefully that will help the McLaren's get a bit closer but I doubt it somehow. Quite fancy Webber for pole in these conditions.
tongue_of_colicab
Veteran
Sky F1 is dead?
UniversalTruth
Veteran
Exactly.
I begin to hate them. They are stupid idiots and drive the sport to new lows.
There is nothing so special in the conditions. If it had been year 1998, there would have been no problem to go for the race even in much worse conditions.
What did they do to the sport, those idiots?
