fallen angels : Xenon , Nin Revolution..
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jvd said:
Blast spinning "killer disks" that fly out the console after some blast spinning?
Teasy said:
Well, I think there´s a pretty big difference between calling a CPU "Emotion Engine" and codenaming an entire console as "Revolution". At least EE was an original name, which followed a Sony convention, an "engine" that is capable of showing emotion in a videogame, nowhere near as pretencious as "Revolution".
What does "Revolution" entail either way? Unless it completely changes the way we all play games, it´s quite a dumb way to code name your console, besides, it´s too trendy, unimaginative and quite lame, IMO of course. What happened to codenames such as "Atlantis" and "Dolphin"?
And come on..."the NinTY ReVOLuTION!!!"? Geez, I would´ve expected 8 year olds to come up with that kind of thing.
Almasy
You really have to be kidding here. Claiming that a CPU will allow emotion in games isn't pretentious? It doesn't matter how pretentious you think each name is on a scale of one to ten. Because its just totally subjective. The only thing that matters is that both names are pretentious, both are simply marketing gimmicks and both are officially given names at this point. Therefore if one is ok for people to use then so is the other.
As for naming conventions. So if Nintendo put the same word at the end of every code name it wouldn't matter how silly and pretentious and gimmicky the name was right?
archie4oz
It should have to because Engine is not the pretentious and gimmicky part of the name. The fact that Emotion Engine has one word that follows a naming convention does not make the full name any less pretentious. If Nintendo called there next console the Revolution Entertainment System that would then not be tacky or pretentious or a marketing gimmick simply because they've stuck Entertainment System on the end? (Entertainment System being in the NES and SNES name).
On what I think they should use instead of Emotion Engine. What gives you the impression that I think they should use any other name? As gimmicky and silly as the name is, I don't have a big problem with Sony or anyone else using it.
You really have to be kidding here. Claiming that a CPU will allow emotion in games isn't pretentious? It doesn't matter how pretentious you think each name is on a scale of one to ten. Because its just totally subjective. The only thing that matters is that both names are pretentious, both are simply marketing gimmicks and both are officially given names at this point. Therefore if one is ok for people to use then so is the other.
As for naming conventions. So if Nintendo put the same word at the end of every code name it wouldn't matter how silly and pretentious and gimmicky the name was right?
archie4oz
It should have to because Engine is not the pretentious and gimmicky part of the name. The fact that Emotion Engine has one word that follows a naming convention does not make the full name any less pretentious. If Nintendo called there next console the Revolution Entertainment System that would then not be tacky or pretentious or a marketing gimmick simply because they've stuck Entertainment System on the end? (Entertainment System being in the NES and SNES name).
On what I think they should use instead of Emotion Engine. What gives you the impression that I think they should use any other name? As gimmicky and silly as the name is, I don't have a big problem with Sony or anyone else using it.
Teasy said:
I believe there is indeed quite a difference on both names, since one has solid proof of what it does, and the other has to prove it. The EE has indeed been able to "power" games that have managed to express emotions. It´s marketing, sure, because even DC managed to have games that expressed emotion, but the important thing is that it is true and therefore, a suitable name.
What about the NINTENDO REVOLUTION? A revolution of what? In what terms? Unless it truly is revolutionary and changes the way games are played forever, I believe that the codename is tacky, too pretentious and childish, much more so than EE.
Ok what if Revolution is capable of powering games that express a revolution, say the French Revolution Sorry.. I thought it was funny anyway
Seriously though, clearly Emotion Engine was supposed to mean more then just being able to have characters in games that can express emotion to the player. A 386 could do that, an even worse CPU could draw a stick man with a smile or a frown. Surely naming it the Emotion Engine means that it should be uniquely able to do something with Emotions in game. I remember all the hype going around that it was so powerful AI would be so great that characters would actually have emotions Do you think perhaps Sony might have thought this sort of hype would happen when they called the CPU the emotion engine
You could also say that while the Emotion Engine has done nothing really new with emotions in games, nobody knows for sure whether or not Revolution really will be a revolution or not. So give it the benefit of the doubt.
Although personally I just take the stance that they are both just marketing hype. Something we see constantly in this industry from just about all companies. So lets just take them for what they are and not take it too seriously.
Sorry.. I thought it was funny anyway Seriously though, clearly Emotion Engine was supposed to mean more then just being able to have characters in games that can express emotion to the player. A 386 could do that, an even worse CPU could draw a stick man with a smile or a frown. Surely naming it the Emotion Engine means that it should be uniquely able to do something with Emotions in game. I remember all the hype going around that it was so powerful AI would be so great that characters would actually have emotions
Do you think perhaps Sony might have thought this sort of hype would happen when they called the CPU the emotion engine You could also say that while the Emotion Engine has done nothing really new with emotions in games, nobody knows for sure whether or not Revolution really will be a revolution or not. So give it the benefit of the doubt.
Although personally I just take the stance that they are both just marketing hype. Something we see constantly in this industry from just about all companies. So lets just take them for what they are and not take it too seriously.
The Uber-Cool Cthellis Posting Engine agrees.
Gotta complain about something. Maybe everyone's on edge about not being able to complain about "PSX2" comments anymore.
Dolphin?!?! UNACCEPTABLE!!!! I'm sure that if i threw a GC in the water, it would not start swimming, doing flips, it wouldn't even survive!!! I'm gonna return it! Totally unacceptable, it is disgusting that Nintendo would be so misleading in their marketing.
london-boy said:Dolphin?!?! UNACCEPTABLE!!!! I'm sure that if i threw a GC in the water, it would not start swimming, doing flips, it wouldn't even survive!!! I'm gonna return it! Totally unacceptable, it is disgusting that Nintendo would be so misleading in their marketing.
Yeah and unlike the loveable aquatic mammals, gamecubes are NOT edible...believe me, I know this now
Plus, have you ever heard of a GameCube getting caught in any tuna nets?
Why are some people making such a friggin big deal out of a CODE name?
Guden Oden said:
I´m not, I´m just annoyed by Teasy´s attitude: "Nintendo does no wrong, and if they do, other companies do it as well and just as badly". I really don´t care all that much about a codename, I just believe that a PR department that calls anything "Revolution", needs a few classes on marketing.