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PC-Engine said:You actually think I would be stupid enough to contradict myself?
Actually no, I didn't think you would be stupid enough to contradict yourself but apparently I was wrong.
PC-Engine said:
Exactly. There is nothing special about a PC emulating a calculator with graphing functions. Heck, there is little special about emulating a calculator in the first place. It's novel, yes. Interesting, uh, ok. Only to nerds I guess. Cool? Uh, seek help.
PC-Engine said:
Naw, the uniqueness comes from emulating a calculator in the first place. Definately wins points for uniqueness but a calculator? Talk about the opposite of cool.
PC-Engine said:Apparently you dug yourself into a hole that you can't climb out of, scrambling for examples to only come up with PC emulation that uses a boring mouse and stupid computer monitor to emulate a calculator....LMAO. Do you see anybody carrying around a PC as a calculator? You're hopeless.
Dude, all of us have pretty much buried you under your own words. Besides, it's not as if you couldn't DL a calculator for PDAs years ago. Whoa, a Scientific Calculator. You must get all the chicks!
PC-Engine said:It's called TI-85 emulation for a reason Sherlock. Maybe you'd rather it be called TI-2010?
Ah yes. Too bad TI-85s suck compared to HPs. Let's emulate something that sucks. Ok.
PC-Engine said:Actually an Abacus using the touch screen would be pretty cool and unique.
You know, I actually wrote Abacus at first but didn't think it was nerdy enough for my point.
PC-Engine said:The situation cannot be reversed because PSP doesn't have touch screen so the IF doesn't even apply here. You didn't see me using IFs did you? You know why?
It's called a hypothetical situation. And actually the question was rhetorical because we ALL know the answer to my question.
PC-Engine said:Why would it need to when it already wins in the cleverness/uniqueness category? Console emulation is OLD NEWS get it?
Yay! Welcome to the new age of gaming gentlemen. "We've secretly replaced your favorite consoles with a Calculator!"
PC-Engine said:
PC-Engine against the world, again. I never get tired of it. Pure comedy gold!
PC-Engine said:
So now the DS has to be the COMPLETE system? Interesting standard. Here I was suggesting expanding the interface but you'd rather limit yourself. /shrug - to each his own.
PC-Engine said:
I can agree with this.
PC-Engine said:
When you first asked about where the TG-16 came into all of this. Then you went on a rant about the PSP.
Lazy8s said:
And is getting a scientific calculator on a hand held (a PDA like you used in your example) something new? In fact, I'd wager this type of software existed on PDAs before emulation of consoles.
That's probably why you get buried in everyone of your spaghetti code debates. Do a search and find one where you've even come close to having a clue.
It's cool in a nerdy kind of way. Maybe you should seek help since you cannot accept these opinions and need to resort to being the authority figure in coolness. Voice activated calculator? Talk about missing the point.
Much cooler than your DS remote control using stupid WiFi->IR addon module.
And you must get all the transgenders.
Actually the TI-85 is a classic that's why it was chosen, of course you wouldn't understand this since you're too preoccupied getting a DS to controlling your garage door.
Doesn't change the fact it's still interesting since it would use the touch screen instead of some dumbass mouse clicks.
And ironically that hypothetical/rhetorical example was what got you buried in that dark and lonely hole.
Actually it's you against reality.
The first part wasn't trolling. It was a question. The second part was in response to a trolling remark from mech.
I think you're totally missing the point. It's not about having a calculator on your PDA. It's about emulating the look and function of a classic TI-85 with complete authentic skin etc. while using two screens. I don't believe this is available for a PDA.
Here's another example of emulating a classic, but it's actually an awesome retail product used by thousands of musicians. All the dials and buttons work. It's based on Roland's legendary TB-303 bass synth and TR-808 and -909 drum machines. Here's a descriptions of it.
These are the kinds of things that is cool to me especially when you add touch input to control buttons dials etc. not some stupid game console emulator. Imagine running that puppy on a DS complete with touch controls. 8)
I can imagine that "puppy" running on a PC with high res screen and mouse control, but I can't imagine it running on a DS with a low res screen.
A calculator emulator.. nice... but what's the big deal really except the touch screen control which obviously is a plus PSP hasn't got.
Sounds like there's little else to defend the DS than the touch screen, which is a bit sad really.
A calculator emulator.. nice... but what's the big deal really except the touch screen control which obviously is a plus PSP hasn't got.
Sounds like there's little else to defend the DS than the touch screen, which is a bit sad really.
as per se , every emulation looses originality hence it is a fake copy of the original to begin with.
please stop with the off topic here please
PC-engine, you can maybe try to create another topic regarding homebrew&emu development on nintendo DS hardware? thanx
please stop with the off topic here please
PC-engine, you can maybe try to create another topic regarding homebrew&emu development on nintendo DS hardware? thanx
hey69 said:
So that he can also derail that one too with how PSP doesnt have a calculator?!
PC-Engine said:I think you're totally missing the point. It's not about having a calculator on your PDA. It's about emulating the look and function of a classic TI-85 with complete authentic skin etc. while using two screens. I don't believe this is available for a PDA.
Here's another example of emulating a classic, but it's actually an awesome retail product used by thousands of musicians. All the dials and buttons work. It's based on Roland's legendary TB-303 bass synth and TR-808 and -909 drum machines. Here's a descriptions of it.
Whoa. Comparing TI85 emulation on DS with ReBirth. Talk about missing the point. You have read the snippet you quoted?
There are a lot of reasons why synth emus like ReBirth exist and are used by many musicians, mainly the transfer of analogue sound generators into the digital domain, with all its associated advantages over the analogue domain.
You don't have these advantages with a TI85 emulator - but a huge common disatvantage: worse input. There is a reason why there are still so many standalone sound generators and input devices with knobs, buttons and sliders available in computer music peripherals.
Heck, even scientific calculators are still around even though PDAs (with usually better display, higher computational power and a lot of available software, same or even smaller size (TI Voyage anyone?), etc.) are available almost as cheaply (and sometimes even cheaper).
The TI85 emu might be a nice geeky project, but ReBirth & Co. are made for "real" (i.e. workflow-improving etc.) reasons.
Ok, so, I click on this thread and I'm asking myself "Is some excellent news about PSP emulation (1.5 crack?) the reason for those 2 new pages, or... Is it because some people had to feed the stupidest troll PC-Engine ever came with?"
Although, I knew it must have been people feeding this calculator troll, I'm still surprise to see a picture of ReBirth posted in this thread.
Sure, I might learn the reason why a picture of a friggin' advanced sound app has been posted in this PSP emu thread, and this by reading the whole thread.
But it would force me to read 2 pages of trolling and troll feeding, thing no one, in his right mind, would want to do.
Therefore, I'd just consider this ReBirth pic as one of those internet moments, ya' know when you see some crazy stuff posted, but you really don't want to bother ask WHY, TELL US FFS, WHY. Because the answer might be something that you couldn't handle or something.
Although, I knew it must have been people feeding this calculator troll, I'm still surprise to see a picture of ReBirth posted in this thread.
Sure, I might learn the reason why a picture of a friggin' advanced sound app has been posted in this PSP emu thread, and this by reading the whole thread.
But it would force me to read 2 pages of trolling and troll feeding, thing no one, in his right mind, would want to do.
Therefore, I'd just consider this ReBirth pic as one of those internet moments, ya' know when you see some crazy stuff posted, but you really don't want to bother ask WHY, TELL US FFS, WHY. Because the answer might be something that you couldn't handle or something.
PC-Engine said:
No matter how many times you feebly reply with elementary school insults, none of us are going to believe what you say. Give it up while you're behind.
PC-Engine said:
It was trolling due to your explicit use of the laughing emoticon.
Doh. Speared again by your own words.Oh well, I guess we should just let him be. He's taken enough of a beating. It's like laughing at road kill already.
Vysez said:
The end of that post made me crack up. I scrolled down and saw that pic and was like what the hell?. All the PSP needs is a touchscreen tablet addon (which was shown in some pictures in the past) to allow it to become a calculator. With the implimentation of a web browser on the PSP, I have a feeling it will be sooner rather than later. Also the last thing I care about when using my PSP is calculating how far away I am from the moon and the mean horizontal distance of Alpha Centouri....
My friend just picked up a Voyager (or something similar--I don't know the model number since I was never into that) to relive his hazy, crazy days of creating calculator games in high school. I think he shelled out near $200 for it.Snyder said:
I think he's a bit loopy.
cthellis42 said:My friend just picked up a Voyager (or something similar--I don't know the model number since I was never into that) to relive his hazy, crazy days of creating calculator games in high school. I think he shelled out near $200 for it.Snyder said:
I think he's a bit loopy.
Does it have BlueRay?
london-boy said:cthellis42 said:My friend just picked up a Voyager (or something similar--I don't know the model number since I was never into that) to relive his hazy, crazy days of creating calculator games in high school. I think he shelled out near $200 for it.Snyder said:
I think he's a bit loopy.
Does it have BlueRay?
If you point it at the sun...at the right angle....it will reflect a BlueRay....
>.>
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~_~,
Contemplating that just shifted my cerebellum two inches to the left. >.<london-boy said:
...ouch
Ty said:PC-Engine said:
No matter how many times you feebly reply with elementary school insults, none of us are going to believe what you say. Give it up while you're behind.
PC-Engine said:
It was trolling due to your explicit use of the laughing emoticon.
Oh well, I guess we should just let him be. He's taken enough of a beating. It's like laughing at road kill already.
Why would I care what you say? It makes for good comedy though.
Apparently you quietly snipped the rest of the post to patch that hole.
Remind me to hire you when I need a DS to control my garage door.
Yes you are the authority in coolness.
Ty 0... Reality +1
Honestly, I don't even know what the current bitchfest is about, nor do I care. (I basically phase out the moment people start single-line quoting each others' whole damn posts, and aren't even courteous enough to make sure the spacing is pushed together so we don't have to flip through a huge-for-no-reason post.)
I just found the line "Actually games emulation is old news. Been there done that on PC, PocketPC etc. It's cool but not THAT cool." followed by " That Scientific Calculator is MUCH more clever with TOUCH input virtual buttons and dual screens." to be laughably ludicrous, since both are "been there done that" on "PC, PocketPC, etc.", outpowered/outfunctioned/faster AND better in most ways on PC, and somewhat different on the new portable-forms-of-contention. If only I thought you were being tongue-in-cheek! But alas...
The only real things to do are compare the differnences in their portable forms (basically, DS and PSP versus PDA's) and see what qualifies not just as "more clever" (which is almost none of it) but what would overall differentiate it and make it "more compelling to use."
I just found the line "Actually games emulation is old news. Been there done that on PC, PocketPC etc. It's cool but not THAT cool." followed by " That Scientific Calculator is MUCH more clever with TOUCH input virtual buttons and dual screens." to be laughably ludicrous, since both are "been there done that" on "PC, PocketPC, etc.", outpowered/outfunctioned/faster AND better in most ways on PC, and somewhat different on the new portable-forms-of-contention. If only I thought you were being tongue-in-cheek! But alas...
The only real things to do are compare the differnences in their portable forms (basically, DS and PSP versus PDA's) and see what qualifies not just as "more clever" (which is almost none of it) but what would overall differentiate it and make it "more compelling to use."
Well the problem is some people start throwing in useabilty etc. which I don't really care about. I'm just saying the way that calculator emulator is done on the DS was quite clever and cool. Funny thing is, somebody got their panties in a knot because they agreed it was clever but disagreed that it was cool, then came up with some really stupid examples of what cool is.
Once a person suggests adding voice recognition to a TI-85 emulator to make it cool, their authority in coolness just went down the toilet. Hello? That's like adding voice recognition to a program that emulates an old rotary phone. A rotatry phone emulator isn't supposed to have a push button dialpad or voice activated dialing. That's just plain dumb.
Anyway is there any pictures of a TI-85 emulator running on a PPC? I'd like to see them.
Once a person suggests adding voice recognition to a TI-85 emulator to make it cool, their authority in coolness just went down the toilet. Hello? That's like adding voice recognition to a program that emulates an old rotary phone. A rotatry phone emulator isn't supposed to have a push button dialpad or voice activated dialing. That's just plain dumb.
Anyway is there any pictures of a TI-85 emulator running on a PPC? I'd like to see them.
Actually, the voice recognition was thrown out there, I'm pretty sure, to make it "clever." In all, the sci-calc on the DS really isn't clever so much "the only way they'd do it." You need the keys on the touch-screen part (and in all cases with touch-screens and even on PC you have "virtual buttons" drawn up to touch--even if you can use a keyboard as well) and since the upper screen can't be used to press buttons... just what would it be used for?
IMHO it's just a "scientific calculator on a DS" as it's an "emulator on the PSP." They're both things that have been on PC's and PDA's for ages, and they're basically done around the capabilities (and limitations) of the machines. Ty indeed sent the first knock your way because of a previous "coolness" comment and you introduce the "clever"... so frankly it becomes about both. (At least in your ping-pong match here.) IMHO both aren't really "clever" at all, so much as "hopefully using the hardware's capacities to the degree they should for XXX application," and "cool" is always in the eye of the beholder. If you don't care about scientific calculators or dealing with game emulation, you obviously won't think much of either. At least "clever" can be argued about some, though.
Offhand, though, I'd think the DS and PSP core audiences would be more interested in the game-playing capacities of emulation. But hey, that might just be me.
IMHO it's just a "scientific calculator on a DS" as it's an "emulator on the PSP." They're both things that have been on PC's and PDA's for ages, and they're basically done around the capabilities (and limitations) of the machines. Ty indeed sent the first knock your way because of a previous "coolness" comment and you introduce the "clever"... so frankly it becomes about both. (At least in your ping-pong match here.) IMHO both aren't really "clever" at all, so much as "hopefully using the hardware's capacities to the degree they should for XXX application," and "cool" is always in the eye of the beholder. If you don't care about scientific calculators or dealing with game emulation, you obviously won't think much of either. At least "clever" can be argued about some, though.
Offhand, though, I'd think the DS and PSP core audiences would be more interested in the game-playing capacities of emulation. But hey, that might just be me.
As always, Google has all answers.
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