emu on PSP (megadrive , neogeo)

[Ty]

Actually games emulation is old news. Been there done that on PC, PocketPC etc. It's cool but not THAT cool. That Scientific Calculator is MUCH more clever with TOUCH input virtual buttons and dual screens.

Haha, now I've heard it all.

I've had a scientific calculator on my PC for years. I'm sure PDAs have them as well.

But when a Sony product comes out and can conceivably play...you know, games, it's less cool?

Believe me, the Scientific Calc on the DS is interesting and yes, clever, I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously when you say it's more "cool" than the emulation on the PSP.


Does ANYONE think here think if the situations were reversed (PSP had the calc & the DS had game emulators) we'd be hearing a different tune from him?

Sure it comes down to opinion but puhlease have a valid reason for it.

 

[PC-Engine]

I've had a scientific calculator on my PC for years.

Well no duh Sherlock, is it even the same thing? The DS calculator has a touch screen with virtual buttons. Does your PC calculator have that? Clicking on buttons with a mouse isn't very interesting.

Does ANYONE think here think if the situations were reversed (PSP had the calc & the DS had game emulators) we'd be hearing a different tune from him?

How can the PSP emulate a calculator on the same level as the DS? The truth is it CAN'T because it has no touch screen. No amount of spinning is going to change that. Game emulation is OLD NEWS, been there done that.

Sure it comes down to opinion but puhlease have a valid reason for it.

Actually it is a valid reason, but I'm glad you're the authority who decides validity.

Heh I can't wait until somebody comes up with a touch dial pad for DS for use with VoIP.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Actually games emulation is old news. Been there done that on PC, PocketPC etc. It's cool but not THAT cool. That Scientific Calculator is MUCH more clever with TOUCH input virtual buttons and dual screens.

Haha, now I've heard it all.

I've had a scientific calculator on my PC for years. I'm sure PDAs have them as well.

But when a Sony product comes out and can conceivably play...you know, games, it's less cool?

Believe me, the Scientific Calc on the DS is interesting and yes, clever, I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously when you say it's more "cool" than the emulation on the PSP.


Does ANYONE think here think if the situations were reversed (PSP had the calc & the DS had game emulators) we'd be hearing a different tune from him?

Sure it comes down to opinion but puhlease have a valid reason for it.

I'm a bit boggled meself, I'm still trying to grasp how a scientific calculator (virtual touch-screen buttons and all) can compare to game emulation...if we can emulate a game on the PSP I'm betting pretty good odds it could emulate a calculator too. (Although the input would be akward, again the "win" goes to the touchpad. )

'Tis a bit of an extreme position, and methinks a bit of a silly one. :?

 

[PC-Engine]

Let me ask a simple question then. Has videogame emulation be done before?

Has a scientific calculator emulation been done with a touch screen for the buttons and another screen for the display?

I rest my case.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Has a scientific calculator emulation been done with a touch screen for the buttons and another screen for the display?

Sure, my PalmIII has one.

 

[mech]

Exactly. Touch screen technology is old as the hills, it's hardly as exciting as PC-E is making it out to be.

 

[see colon]

witnes the power of my innovation!

introduced: 1996
CPU: Unknown
Controls: Built-in game pad, 4 buttons, touchscreen

http://www.computercloset.org/TigerGameCom.htm

i kid, i kid....

everyday i hear about how cool the hombrew comunity is for the PSP, but i don't get it. why is it great? what are they doing that's so special? console emu? i'm not saying a calculator emu is any better. the DS linux project is looking pretty decent, but i still wouldn't be bragging about the hombrew comunity of either handheld at this point. it's nothing compared to what has been done on the dreamcast, mobile phone (including ngage), or even ipod.

 

[mech]

The difference is that the PSP actually has the grunt to run these emulators, as well as having a good screen for it. Only talking about handheld emulation now, I've tried emulation on an iPaq and on my N-Gage, and in both cases it was woeful. The control in the iPaq was atrocious (as to be expected), and the N-Gage's screen orientation and tiny screen made it very bad.

PSP = good control, great screen, plenty of grunt, it has the potential to do the emulation VERY well, which is why people are excited.

As for homebrew - for similar reasons people are excited I guess.

Not sure what's been done on iPod that's so exciting btw. Care to clarify?

 

[PC-Engine]

Has a scientific calculator emulation been done with a touch screen for the buttons and another screen for the display?

Sure, my PalmIII has one.

Your PalmIII has two screens?

 

[see colon]

one word... linux. it's pretty slick, actualy, because it retains all of the ipod's original functions, and adds more. plus, you can dual boot them so if anything goes wrong you can still boot to the original ipod software.

i can see why people could get excited about the hardware capabilities of the psp (including the screen) but nothing been realy done yet, and certainly nothing that takes advantage of that widescreen display. gbc emulation on the ngage was actualy pretty neat because the smaller screen and backlight actualy make the games look a tad better (smaller pixels=less noticable jaggies). emulating a scientific calculator on the DS is pretty fitting with the hardware (in a neat but generaly pointless kind of way), but running GBC games on the psp just seams pointless to me. the games are going to look like crap once you scale them to fill a decent portion of the screen, and it's not like gbc games (and hardware) aren't cheap and readily available. if you must emulate something, emulate something worthwhile, or at least something that's not going to be sold for $1 at a garage sale.

 

[mech]

GBC games are boring to be sure. I was more talking about SNES, MegaDrive, PC-Engine and Neo Geo CD games being exciting and awesome.

I've got Linux on my iPod, and it's completely useless, just a novelty.

 

[see colon]

I've got Linux on my iPod, and it's completely useless, just a novelty.

nothing is useless if you know how to use it
you're right though, it is a novelty. in fact, homebrew development for consoles in general is. you generaly don't see really high quality stuff coming out from homebrew devs on consoles apart from random old platform emulation, but the pc mod comunity is a whole other story. many mods turn out to be "retail quality" or better.

 

[Ty]

Well no duh Sherlock, is it even the same thing?

No, the PC is probably more accurate and feature filled, like doing graphs.

The DS calculator has a touch screen with virtual buttons.

Better they used the microphone so you could simply speak into and perform functions.

Does your PC calculator have that? Clicking on buttons with a mouse isn't very interesting.

ROFL, so clicking on virtual buttons FOR A SCIENTIFIC CALCULATOR is interesting? :lol I know when I'm bored I bust out my PC version of Slide Rule 4.0 and rock on!

How can the PSP emulate a calculator on the same level as the DS? The truth is it CAN'T because it has no touch screen.

And how could the DS emulate these other consoles on the same level of the PSP? The truth is it CAN'T because it has no touch screen ... oh wait maybe it's horsepower.

No amount of spinning is going to change that. Game emulation is OLD NEWS, been there done that.

Rock on! Next big thing for the DS will be Virtual Garbage Disposal! The faster you spin the stylus on the touchpad, the more food you can grind up! Or maybe Virtual ATM H@x0r! You press the "virtual buttons" on the touchscreen and have to hack the randomly generated PIN. W00t!

Actually it is a valid reason, but I'm glad you're the authority who decides validity.

You should be glad going by the way you form your opinions.

Heh I can't wait until somebody comes up with a touch dial pad for DS for use with VoIP.

THAT would at least be interesting and probably WAY more useful.


Funny how we don't see DS topics being trolled to this degree. I guess the standards have been set - it's OK to troll Sony topics.

 

[swaaye]

I want N64 emulation. That would be an achievement.

 

[mech]

Indeed it would be. Surely it's possible, especially an UltraHLE style emulator...

 

[cthellis42]

Has a scientific calculator emulation been done with a touch screen for the buttons and another screen for the display?

And here is where, I suppose, you will have to inform us how a device with two screens (~100k pixels)--half of them touch--is inherently better or rather "more clever" than doing it on, say, one screen that's 320x320 (also ~100k) and all touch. Or 320x480. (Or heck, there are 640x480 screens at this point, I think.)

Using the mic would indeed make for something more clever, though. Fewer PDA's have those built-in and I'm not sure anyone's bothering to use them for a calculator program yet. (Pinnacle of interest that they are.)

 

[London Geezer]

I can't believe my eyes. PCEngine now arguing the virtues of a... calculator...

Now i can say i've seen them all.

 

[PC-Engine]

No, the PC is probably more accurate and feature filled, like doing graphs.

Doing graphs? Who cares? A PC can do a lot of things, so what? Do you even know what you're arguing?

OTOH if they could make an HP graphing calculator emulator for the DS, that would be even cooler. 8)

Better they used the microphone so you could simply speak into and perform functions.

That sounds really stupid. A TI-85 doesn't have mic.

ROFL, so clicking on virtual buttons FOR A SCIENTIFIC CALCULATOR is interesting? :lol I know when I'm bored I bust out my PC version of Slide Rule 4.0 and rock on!

You don't click on buttons Sherlock. You push them with your fingers just like on a standalone calculator.

And how could the DS emulate these other consoles on the same level of the PSP? The truth is it CAN'T because it has no touch screen ... oh wait maybe it's horsepower.

Where did I claim DS needs to emulate other consoles LMAO?

Rock on! Next big thing for the DS will be Virtual Garbage Disposal! The faster you spin the stylus on the touchpad, the more food you can grind up! Or maybe Virtual ATM H@x0r! You press the "virtual buttons" on the touchscreen and have to hack the randomly generated PIN. W00t!

PSP still doesn't have a touchscreen so no amount of horsepower or spinning is going to change that.

You should be glad going by the way you form your opinions.

Well ironically it's these opinions that you can't accept.

THAT would at least be interesting and probably WAY more useful.

The point wasn't about usefulness. The point was about the uniqueness of the emulation being performed. Console emulation isn't unique. It's OLD get it?

BTW looking back at this thread it seems YOU were the one to start comparing DS emulation with PSP. Nice going SHERLOCK.

Get back to me when you can spin out of that one.

 

[London Geezer]

One more smiley and my brain will melt.

 

[PC-Engine]