Driver and DLL juggling *spawn*

Unacceptable response at every level. You accused a fellow member of lying.

These are your posts:









And here are examples spanning 2 years of driver releases (not even accounting for PASCAL which had dismal driver releases) proving that you are lying to the members of this forum.


https://www.reddit.com/user/RodroG/posts/


Has there been or not, multitude of cases of regression in performance and stability in new drivers? This is a yes or no question.

 

I gave you about a dozen of benchmarks which clearly show that NO, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.
One of them is even from that reddit guy you're constantly referring to.
And Pascal of all things has perfect driver support. Kepler may be seen as being spotty these days, depending on what game you're running on it.

Have courage admitting that you are wrong instead of spamming the thread with screenshots of my posts from this same page and giving links which only further strengthen my point.

 

There are literally 3 or 4 examples in that user database proving that there was regression in performance and stability in new driver releases.

Its there, written on paper.

you lied.

 

Degustator, if I may, he is doing the same BS with a lot of users recently, don't engage with him, imho

 

Its with sorrow that I read something like this, as it is not true and I question how such an idea came to be.

I find DegustatoR actively lying across many topics since I started paying attention in the Resident Evil 8 topic. And I only engage when its lamentably obvious.

 

There is nothing to engage with. No matter how many times he will proclaim that I'm lying it won't change the facts which I've presented.

 

Its visible to anyone above, that you actively lied and rejected the presented evidence with semantics.

 

Its actually very common to update your driver if you intend to play a new game that had a gameready driver, and switch back to the version that works best with your machine or your favorite game.

 

The first part is true. The second? I can only speak for myself but I haven't rolled back a driver since I started PC gaming and I have more gray hair than I would like. Since you claim that it is "very common" I assume you have conducted a large scale survey across a cross-section of PC gamers, and your data shows that a majority of gamers (60-70% of your sample set since you use "very common") engage in this practice. Please share this data with us.

 

I uninstalled team fortress 2 (I didnt really play it) because I was fed up with it updating every single time I fired up steam to play a game

 

Which is more of a rareity then something usual though. Its been awhile since ive had TF2 installed (i think i played it 2007/2008 somewhere), but i can imagine something like TF2 has more fequent updates than say some singleplayer game.

 

I only have time to play the big budget games so I guess that's why I've never come across this (that I've noticed at least). I'm not overly concerned about the low single digit performance gains you might be able to get from certain driver versions so I tend to just upgrade when I can be bothered or perhaps if I'm starting a shiny new performance hog of a game just to eek out the last bit of performance that I may (or may not) get from the latest driver. Out of interest I've just checked and it seems I'm currently running 469.92. 471.11 is waiting for me in GeForce Experience to click install when I can get round to it!

 

Firstly I find it quite absurd that suddenly the requisite of certain people over here to accept the existence of a practice they never heard of, requires a large scale survey as evidence. I suspect its because of the heresy of the slightly negative connotation that nvidia can make bad driver releases once in a while.


As for commonality, its more common across the communities I frequent specially the ones with VR games, simulators, older competitive multiplayer games. And it doesn't stop at the drivers. Windows versions, steamvr versions. Everything counts.


Its common enough that I was aware of benchmarks being done between drivers versions for years, as i academically proved above in this thread. Pick any of the comparisons that were done and read the comments from actual users sentiment.

 

These people benchmarking drivers and recommending them with minuscule random differences between runs are idiots. Just disregard and use the latest driver.

 

This debate is why would some people juggle back and forth between driver versions. Its not a judgement of people. Its not up to you or anyone here to judge them as idiots for doing something particular to their situation. By calling them idiots you both are being one yourselves.


Your "minuscule and random differences" claim serves more as evidence of your low effort in this discussion, than the truthfulness of the claim. Differences at were times of 5~10% which are not minimal, as seen in examples I posted above.



Someone asked why would one juggle between drivers, and it was respectfully and academically answered. And not only by me.
Someone claimed there was not in existence one single example of performance regression between old and newer drivers, and it was respectfully and academically answered and proved.



Your inability to maturely accept new concepts, ideas, and evidence, is not my problem. Its yours. Its it does indeed reeks of resetera in there.

 

But how else were you going to get all those new hats?

 

A massive amen from me.

Use the latest driver.

 

Agreeing with someone calling other people "idiots" is not far from being one himself, when the situation as been well documented above.

 

Well said, the days of swapping or rolling back drivers for users not looking for some % of performance deltas is loooong gone. Heck even in 2003 i didnt bother all that much with drivers, had just the latest ATI drivers, never a problem then either. One could say the mid to late 90's could be called struggling perhaps.

 

Citation needed...