The PS5 in theory (at least on paper) should be able to handle both.
Edit: Weird your name was different when I replied to this. Thanks Alex!
Last edited:
Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2021]
- Thread starter BRiT
- Start date
- Status
The PS5 in theory (at least on paper) should be able to handle both.
Edit: Weird your name was different when I replied to this. Thanks Alex!
I think it is me just being a bit purposefully obtuse when I say that wording
One reason is because the end resolution and even the internal resolution is not always very important IMO when 2 different ways to generate pixels are being used. For example, 1440p internal res upscaled to 4K with DLSS 2.0 would produce a very different and interesting looking image in comparison to near 1800p with TAA. Think about it. 1440p to 4K DLSS 2.0 vs. 1800p TAA vs. Checkerboard 4K. All have various internal resolutions - but the quality of the end product does not line up with their internal resolutions in ascending order.
Basically, I am trying to just decouple the discussion from the resolution numbers to start talking about image quality again. The numbers are not really interesting anymore to us at DF rather often.
Good thing to point out.
One thing I said in the video, but did not show examples of, is that I found pixel counts where the PS5 in performance mode was lower res than the PS4 in Quality mode. Makes sense though as it is targetting 60 fps with much higher particle resolution.
I bet 1x vs X shows similar story here.
not sure about CBR being free. Just less than doing native.
No upsampling technique is free. And depending on where it happens on the pipeline determines the amount of savings
Sure, but the bad IQ sampling across the UI and the additional aliasing / ghosting from the combination (CBR/DRR) on PS5 looks quite bad at times in performance mode.
Thanks for your work. If I may ask, are the UI elements rendered at the same res as the rendering pass on XSX just like on the PS5, or are they decoupled from it?I think it is me just being a bit purposefully obtuse when I say that wording
One reason is because the end resolution and even the internal resolution is not always very important IMO when 2 different ways to generate pixels are being used. For example, 1440p internal res upscaled to 4K with DLSS 2.0 would produce a very different and interesting looking image in comparison to near 1800p with TAA. Think about it. 1440p to 4K DLSS 2.0 vs. 1800p TAA vs. Checkerboard 4K. All have various internal resolutions - but the quality of the end product does not line up with their internal resolutions in ascending order.
Basically, I am trying to just decouple the discussion from the resolution numbers to start talking about image quality again. The numbers are not really interesting anymore to us at DF rather often.
Good thing to point out.
One thing I said in the video, but did not show examples of, is that I found pixel counts where the PS5 in performance mode was lower res than the PS4 in Quality mode. Makes sense though as it is targetting 60 fps with much higher particle resolution.
Maybe in the future CBR might get used instead of a dynamic res. So instead of dropping the resolution, just fall back to CBR if the target-framerate is not reached.
This would combine a clear image with a slight blurrier if target is not met.
The other cool feature CBR (or reconstruction techs like DLSS) could be used for is going above 4k with the current resolution. Yes, CBR is not free, but a minimal drop in resolution if the target is met to reconstruction to a >4k resolution would be interesseting, too.
Yes, resolution does not really matter, but if there is some spare power left, it could be used to make some things a little bit better.
The smaller the pixels get, the less visible CBR artifacts should get.
I agree it varies game by game.
But I would argue that if it's added to the game it's probably free or low cost, especially because it seems so half-arsed on the PS5.
https://wccftech.com/blow-checkerbo...isnt-completely-free-might-better-uses-power/
snc
Veteran
I've found one big reson, quality is not so good as dynamic res
I hope Nixxes won't use the same CBR engine in their next game (
I doubt it. They probably simply used the settings of the Pro version (as this was tested and QA) and simply ported that on PS5 knowing it was already tested as OK on PS4.
snc
Veteran
highly doubt they checked drs results and found dynamic cb gives better image quality
highly doubt they checked drs results and found dynamic cb gives better image quality
I mean, they did originally choose the same setup on the pro over DRS. Pro's resolution is only slightly lower than PS5's 60 fps mode.
The higher your fps, the better results temporal reconstruction gives you.
Last edited:
My thoughts exactly.
snc
Veteran
maybe in some sense its sony fault as they were pushing cb with ps4pro but I think dynamic res is much better option for ps5 (Death Stranging has opinion as good cb example but Valhalla dynamic res gives definitly better sharper results)
snc
Veteran
and do it very good, no problem with low internal resolution when end results is good but I'm not fan of cb
Last edited:
Just out of curiosity, did the PS4/PS5 Avengers edition ever get Spider-Man?
Decoupled I believe.
Hmm that's interesting. Thanks.
- Status
Similar threads
