Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2021]

Reminds me of this, it was the only time in my life my dad lost it with laughing, he didnt like these shows but when the TV exploded he lost it.

 

They have the better "anti aliasing" , they are generally not sharper just in motion.
The "beam" of light that hits your dot/ptich-mask in the CRT monitor still bleeds through the edges of the tiny holes and there they get mixed with their neighbor pixels. So you always have a "natural AA"-Filter on a CRT monitor. That doesn't happen with an LCD (or whatever) screen. Every pixel is sharp and separated from the other pixels.
A big problem CRTs always had was sharpness. LCDs have the sharpness (but not in motion) but are missing color-mixing on the pixels edges.

I really don't miss my 120Hz CRT.

Another aspect why the good old CRTs might look better, they were much smaller than todays displays. My 19" CRT was gigantic as computer monitor at that time (had a 14" CRT before). But now with 27" monitor (or 65" TV) the picture is a lot bigger and much sharper, so you can identify artifacts and aliasing much easier.

 

Except for the BGR subpixel alignment of many TVs.
Although I suspect that was more of a problem in the days of 720p displays.

 

So the link was www.anecdotal.com
lol

 

Um, no. While true for LCD due to the need for a backlight, OLEDs have self emissive pixels (well actually the sub pixels that make up the pixel). So when an OLED is sent a signal for black, it turns off and it's actually a black pixel.

Yup, while CRTs have deeper blacks than LCDs, in a perfectly dark room, if you turned on a CRT and sent it a black screen, your room would no longer be perfectly dark. The black screen (well really dark grey ) on the CRT would be lighting up the room enough to easily distinguish what's in the room.

If you gamed on console then you'd unfortunately have been limited by either 50 Hz (PAL) or 60 Hz (NTSC) screen refresh rates. Depending on the person this could cause headaches depending on how sensitive you were to the screen strobing that slowly.

Luckily higher end desktop PC CRT displays could refresh the screen significantly faster than that. I found that for me, at 72 Hz and higher refresh, the chance of eye strain was greatly reduced compared to 60 Hz screen refresh. For consoles hooked up to a CRT TV, I'd just limit how long I used it and/or only use it in a very bright room.

For this reason, most ergonomic office CRT monitors were 72 Hz or higher.

I can't even imagine how painful it would have been for me to use a PAL TV for anything. (/shudder). At least even in the EU, I believe PC displays were 60 Hz minimum, but I could be wrong about that.

Regards,
SB

 

So, now we can choose if we want the game to be 900p@60 + AF (xbox series consoles) or 1080p@60 on PS5.
From Software should really have released at least a res-update for PS4 Pro. This way it is a little bit hard to decide ^^

 

Were the animations or physics tied to framerate in that game on Xbox?

 

It's nice they have another way to do it, as it may be applicable for other titles.
But, the fact that they had to work with From even a little, should've just done a proper patch improving resolution and 60fps.

The amount of effort MS did for this title could've easily funded a patch.

Shame fps boost didn't have a 120fps mode for this, would've made the 900p more palatable.

Then you have things like Fallout 76 (1P) still getting content, yet hasn't received a patch but relying on fps boost.

 

Yeah, better than nothing i guess, great news as many people still run speedruns and generaly enjoys souls games. But i fully agree, no proper patch is a real shame.

 

usualy there are different categories depending on fps for speedruning game

 

I only know glitchless and "any %"

 

And enabling FPS boost can impact visual quality elsewhere. I don't play 76 but I still play Fallout 4 and started a new play through using FPS boost on my Series X. This hits 60fps but drops the resolution down to 1080p and reduces some other graphical settings too. But if you disable FPS boost and use the 60fps mod, you get 4K/60 with all the usual bells and whistles.

 

I think xbox platform team are amazing including fps boost.
But when first party titles are relying on it, especially when XSX has to drop to XO versions of games is crazy.
Plus XSS has to run at a much lower resolution than necessary.
Not asking for more than default resolution and fps boost at the minimum.

 

Great video and interview. Lots of good stuff.

-VRS tier-2 is great and reduces the need for full frame DRS for an overall more consistent experience.

-Raytraced reflections were used to realize the original artist vision that wasn’t fully possible with SSR and cube maps. The end result sticks to the original design goals.

-They built a completely raytraced renderer for Doom Eternal! This was to ensure RT compatibility with their unified lighting system but it was obviously too slow. End result was that RT has access to all assets and effects including particle systems.

-They would prefer to roll their own upscaling solution but integrating DLSS was a good experience and it produced good results. I could be wrong but I got the feeling the engine team didn’t make this decision and it came down from above.

-Developers have experience with offline RT and are stoked to have access to usable hardware RT performance to bring some of those concepts to real-time.

 

Yeah, I get the feeling that they only did DLSS because they "had" to. They would have preferred a solution that worked on all platforms and all GPUs. This would be consistent with their past behavior (using Vulkan instead of DX to allow easier implementation on other platforms such as Linux).

Maybe we'll see them roll their own upscaling solution for their next project?

Regards,
SB