Current Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]

[PSman1700]

Damn, with all this SSD hype, im set to be dissapointed no matter what. Im expecting 10x star citizen scale and graphics now.

 

[BRiT]

What about systems that will not be able to use the potential of a SSD like

Same way the devs deal with PS4 and 4Pro consoles.

 

[Barrabas]

Same way the devs deal with PS4 and 4Pro consoles.

Yes, unfortunately, we will not see much of cross platform games that fully utilize the fast SSD an I/O tech I am afraid

 

[mrcorbo]

What about systems that will not be able to use the potential of a SSD like earlier generation Xbox since they have their smart delivery system that guarantee that new games shall work on them also?

The versions for those systems wouldn't work as well or would be cut down significantly.

 

[PSman1700]

Yes, unfortunately, we will not see much of cross platform games that fully utilize the fast SSD an I/O tech I am afraid

Unless those 150+ millions of users are going to be left in the dust the the first year of those next gen consoles.

 

[Jay]

On Xbox One it's capped at 32.

Sounds like limitation of X1 than atmos

 

[iroboto]

Sounds like limitation of X1 than atmos

developer choice. it was said that more than 32 was going to sound insane and distracting.
I sort of get it

 

[Barrabas]

Unless those 150+ millions of users are going to be left in the dust the the first year of those next gen consoles.

Why care, I want a revolution!!

 

[Riddlewire]

Interesting post in Resetera about the subject i was touching and if true would be huge:
...

You don't need to have a loud ass console rendering all that. Just in front." **

...

Confirmed. The PS5 is a "loud ass console" when rendering things in front of the player.

So sad.

 

[Karamazov]

next gen megaton rainfall please

 

[PSman1700]

Why care, I want a revolution!!

Everyone upgrade day 1!

 

[mrcorbo]

Why care, I want a revolution!!

You don't have to keep a business afloat. Do you care when a development studio shuts down because the numbers don't work out?

 

[Barrabas]

You don't have to keep a business afloat. Do you care when development studio shuts down because the numbers don't work out?

It was a joke. I now its early times and we do not know much about next generation hardware and game development for these yet.
I understand that for all this specialized SSD and I/O hardware to be fully utilized, you need to radically change game
design? If so, my concern is that over the years when developers make cross platform games they can't design the games with this fast SSD I/O system in mind. I doubt that they will make several versions of the same game, but do some optimization for each platform. I really do not like that new generation multi platform games might not fully realize potential of new generation consoles because of this. At least I think we will over the years see the full potential on PS5 first party games since they will not need to be playable on PS4 and further back.
I would very much appreciate to be convinced otherwise because I am a big fan of some multiplayer 3rd party game franchises and I want them to be so good they can be. Sorry for the bit of rant, I think I might have cabin fever like i think it was what @BRiT said.

 

[PSman1700]

Sorry for the bit of rant, I think I might have cabin fever like i think it was what @BRiT said.

You guys need to stay inside/at home in norway? not that far yet for your neighbour-country, not a problem for me anyway, living on the countryside

 

[Barrabas]

You guys need to stay inside/at home in norway? not that far yet for your neighbour-country, not a problem for me anyway, living on the countryside

Yes many of us, at least for a while

 

[goonergaz]

It was a joke. I now its early times and we do not know much about next generation hardware and game development for these yet.
I understand that for all this specialized SSD and I/O hardware to be fully utilized, you need to radically change game
design? If so, my concern is that over the years when developers make cross platform games they can't design the games with this fast SSD I/O system in mind. I doubt that they will make several versions of the same game, but do some optimization for each platform. I really do not like that new generation multi platform games might not fully realize potential of new generation consoles because of this. At least I think we will over the years see the full potential on PS5 first party games since they will not need to be playable on PS4 and further back.
I would very much appreciate to be convinced otherwise because I am a big fan of some multiplayer 3rd party game franchises and I want them to be so good they can be. Sorry for the bit of rant, I think I might have cabin fever like i think it was what @BRiT said.

I don’t know if it’s radically change, rather forget the old shackles. As an example - if I drive to the shops I need to consider my route, the traffic, lights, danger spots, junctions that are a PITA to pull out of...but imagine if I could get to the shops without those restrictions? Even if it was just that there were no other cars, lights or pedestrians.

Also, I should imagine 3rd party games might benefit from faster loading, less pop-in or other side effects of just having that faster drive. Eventually PCs will have similar speed drives so more 3rd parties may begin to utilise it more.

 

[zupallinere]

1st party PS games will see a lot of SSD action but will the Xbox see as much if those games also have to run on PCs ?

 

[PSman1700]

1st party PS games will see a lot of SSD action but will the Xbox see as much if those games also have to run on PCs ?

Most likely, otherwise the whole adoption of direct storage to PC was a waste of resources.

 

[iroboto]

1st party PS games will see a lot of SSD action but will the Xbox see as much if those games also have to run on PCs ?

PC has much more memory. So yea, I don't see why not.

 

[fehu]

How many 2021 gaming pc will still use a mechanical drive?