VRS doesn’t smear the screen it’s dynamic selecting only certain pixels it learns to effect which are surfaces not easily seen ie dark places, far away, obstructed. Gears 5 and Gears Tactics first used VRS 2.0 with amazing results shown by DF. I’m excited to see their UE5 demo soon!
Current Generation Games Analysis Technical Discussion [2020-2021] [XBSX|S, PS5, PC]
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If it's not perceptible then it means VRS is not working. VRS is not a win / win tech, it's a lose / win one. People need to accept the vaseline effect compared to no VRS at the same res. With RT + DRS + more efficient reconstruction tech (like Insomniac one) VRS is not needed.
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It is the other way arround. If VRS has visible artifacts, the implementation is flawed. It shouldn't have a visible impact. So areas in the spotlight should not be affected at all.
Also RT + DRS + reconstruction, doesn't exclude VRS. VRS can still be used for areas where the usage is not noticeable in the picture but in the performance improvement.
Current developers seem to just use it like a user who uses DLSS and always set it to the most aggressive setting. VRS is just one small tool and not the wonder-feature that makes everything possible. And it is certainly not a replacement for DRS + reconstruction. But it can help that the resolution must not go down to far when using DRS. And on it's way saving cycles, bandwidth, ... to improve the picture more in other areas. That is the idea behind VRS.
A developer explains he got VRS tier 2 to work with no visible decrease in image quality, thats quite a great return if theres any performance to gain there imo. Also, VRS can certainly be used ontop of RT/upscaling etc.
VRS is the DLSS of the consoles (or yes, xbox atleast), its in early stages now, but probably make its advancements in due time. Its a huge omission for the PS5 imo.
VRS is the DLSS of the consoles (or yes, xbox atleast), its in early stages now, but probably make its advancements in due time. Its a huge omission for the PS5 imo.
vaseline?? Oh boy
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VRS is a win lose tech and the developers never claimed the opposite. The trick is to use it in a way the gamer doesn't see the loses. The developers claimed he achieved exactly that. Unless a gamer stares for half an hour onto a screen and zoomed into the picture.
As I've said before the main reason it's bad is because it's not present on all of PC, PS5, and Xbox.
That doesn't make it bad, just less likely to be used in third party games. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's the Xbox DLSS (performance uplift is nowhere close
) but it's just another tool devs can use to increase performance / image quality.Another fascinating case study to look at would be Hitman III. Ever since the start of the new trilogy, they've been using Tile Deferred rendering ...
Data would suggest that Hitman is not bounded by it's shading performance either. If we go from having no variable shading to the performance option, the maximum gain is roughly ~5% ... (virtually no difference in performance if we compare against the quality option)
Data would suggest that Hitman is not bounded by it's shading performance either. If we go from having no variable shading to the performance option, the maximum gain is roughly ~5% ... (virtually no difference in performance if we compare against the quality option)
Its ’bad’ because its not on ps5.
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I was talking about doom not gears 5, I would like too see diferences on xsx just dynamic res with slightly lower res vs vrs and dynamic res, imo just dynamic res would look better(tough difference ofcourse would be subtle)
VRS is the scalpel to the DRS hammer. Both obviously have their place if implemented well but you'd want to do as much as you can with VRS before resorting to the hammer.
I don't think Hardware VRS is a must have for traditional title but it would be better to have it for the few forward rendering title, at least for undersample things behind motion blur and depth of field.
But Sony has a VR headset and it means on VR side most of the title use forward rendering it would been very useful. Sony needs it more than MS because of VR but they will use other less precise compromise.
But Sony has a VR headset and it means on VR side most of the title use forward rendering it would been very useful. Sony needs it more than MS because of VR but they will use other less precise compromise.
Ye, its just sad. Same things happens to ray tracing, because well, it isnt all that glorious on PS5.
If they need it more, then why did they omit this feature that is a very good for just consoles?
Tbh i dont really care if its on consoles or not, i am kinda surprised that it attracts so much negative comments and this tech is so controversial.
I understand that implementation so far is with mixed results from great (gears 5, tactics) to very bad (RE:Village) but clearly one should see potential that it brings to the table.
Anyway it feels like we go in circles every time VRS is mentioned, same arguments over and over again.
I understand that implementation so far is with mixed results from great (gears 5, tactics) to very bad (RE:Village) but clearly one should see potential that it brings to the table.
Anyway it feels like we go in circles every time VRS is mentioned, same arguments over and over again.
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