Check out NV40 on HL2

bloodbob,
I really can't understand your point. There's only 1 preview on HL2 with 3 cards. The 6800U is 2 to 5 (4.4 :rolleyes: ) faster, 2 for the 9800 XT 4.4 for the 5950U, that are FACTS.

Now if you want me to discuss your points why not.
bloodbob said:
Well if you say competiting products aren't all the products competiting and at no point in time is it 100 times faster then all the competiting products.
Sure but he is talking of 2 products that are in the preview. Those 2 products are previous/present best product on the market. The 6800 is 2-5 times faster than those 2 products. I don't see how you can't cope with that.

Its like if I said my hardware was DX9.0 compatible because it can do VS2.0 and PS2.0 but it can only do VS2.0 or PS2.0 on a single frame it can't do both with hardware acceleration.

Now would you still call that DX9.0 compatible?
If it has the MS approval, yes i would say so. That doesn't mean i would buy it or that i think it's playable in DX9 mode or anything else. But it is a DX9 product till the company who develops DX9 (ie MS) says so.

Or better yet why don't we start doing demos we record the max fps in the entire demo for card A and record the minium fps on the card B.
I don't see where you want to go?

Now all the way through the demo Card B is twice as fast as card and only ever drops to 10.0 fps and of course Card A is at 5.0 fps. The max speed for Card B is say 200 fps at some point and Card A got a max of 100 fps.

Is card A 10 times faster then Card B in that demo?
No, buti can say that the maximum FPS from one card is 10 times faster than the minimum FPS of the other.

Happy? :?
 
Evildeus said:
:?: :?: :?: HL2 is an GITG product, like UT2k4 is a TWIMTBP.

Do you see any animated logos in games that show the GITG slogan? No. Only nvidia does that. The only time you see GITG is on ATI's site or in ATI sponsored ads.
 
ANova said:
Evildeus said:
:?: :?: :?: HL2 is an GITG product, like UT2k4 is a TWIMTBP.

Do you see any animated logos in games that show the GITG slogan? No. Only nvidia does that. The only time you see GITG is on ATI's site or in ATI sponsored ads.
I don't know, i don't have the game. Do you? ;)

They have different marketing, but i can see the logo on the package at least.
 
ANova said:
Evildeus said:
:?: :?: :?: HL2 is an GITG product, like UT2k4 is a TWIMTBP.

Do you see any animated logos in games that show the GITG slogan? No. Only nvidia does that. The only time you see GITG is on ATI's site or in ATI sponsored ads.

actually i remember there was one game with gitg logo on the game itself.. don't remember the name though, except it was fps game, bit serious sam type but worse
 
Kaotik said:
actually i remember there was one game with gitg logo on the game itself.. don't remember the name though, except it was fps game, bit serious sam type but worse

I guess you mean Will Rock.
 
anaqer said:
Kaotik said:
actually i remember there was one game with gitg logo on the game itself.. don't remember the name though, except it was fps game, bit serious sam type but worse

I guess you mean Will Rock.

that's it, thanks :)
 
sonix666 said:
ANova said:
Indeed. I find it amazing how much flak Valve has recieved and still continues to recieve for speaking the truth. Nvidia refuses to acknowledge them or HL2 because of it. Did you notice how the slide that listed all the games which plan on incorporating PS3.0 included Vampire: Bloodlines (a game that uses the Source engine) but not HL2? Instead of owning up to their mistakes they use Valve as their scapegoat by flexing their PR machine and corporate power to incite hatred from fans.
Is HL2 planning on incorporating PS3.0 then? I am not aware of that. So I don't understand your discussion about the list of nVidia of games that are planning to incorporate PS3.0 optimizations.

They are planning to update source to include PS 3.0 as per Gabe Newell whether or not it will be in that game at release or not is another question..
 
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