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[digitalwanderer]

Doubt it. Judging from Baltar Six's reaction, they're still pretty susceptible to that kind of thing.

But what IS "Baltar's Six"? Is she a Cylon/human consciousness projected into his head? We know he ain't got a chip, so that's questionable...

My theory is that Baltar is a Cylon/human, and she is his sub-conscious way of staying on his unknown-to-him Cylon mission....part of the grander unknown Cylon plot for humanity. (Which is NOT to wipe them out, I'm pretty sure)

 

[digitalwanderer]

Remember that the Pegasus is 50 year newer technology than the Galactica, and she was never commisioned as a museum either...she might pack some surprises and her re-arming of the Galactica might have improved her walloping power too.

 

[silence]

Remember that the Pegasus is 50 year newer technology than the Galactica, and she was never commisioned as a museum either...she might pack some surprises and her re-arming of the Galactica might have improved her walloping power too.

true...thats why i hate idea of suicide mission by Pegasus when show starts again

 

[digitalwanderer]

true...thats why i hate idea of suicide mission by Pegasus when show starts again

Yeah, I'd like to see the fleet a bit more battle capable too and I'm pretty sure the Pegasus would more than double their offensive/defensive power...as long as they get rid of Admiral Queeg before she kills them all.

 

[silence]

Yeah, I'd like to see the fleet a bit more battle capable too and I'm pretty sure the Pegasus would more than double their offensive/defensive power...as long as they get rid of Admiral Queeg before she kills them all.

yapppers..... it would be dumb to sacrifice fully operational Battle Star just it cause idiot or Cylon as commander....
something tells me that Adama will win that fight and take Pegasus.... losing such a ship would be foolish and IMO... would make developing plot much harder....

with 2 Battle Stars fleet can take more fights and give more action to audience (which is, IMO, one of reason Pegasus emergaed at all).... show cant focus on Galactica and internal politics forever... with firepower of another Battle Star second part of season could take totally different way.....

 

[bouy]

Especially that the pegasus appears to have 4 times or more Vipers and of the newer models (Mk VII vs Mk II) than Galactica, we can see huge space battles coming up.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Especially that the pegasus appears to have 4 times or more Vipers and of the newer models (Mk VII vs Mk II) than Galactica, we can see huge space battles coming up.

Just curious, where did you get the "4 times or more Vipers" from? Anything having to do with Pegasus' capabilities compared to Galactica's are hot topics for me.

 

[silence]

Just curious, where did you get the "4 times or more Vipers" from? Anything having to do with Pegasus' capabilities compared to Galactica's are hot topics for me.

well...Galactica lost all modern fighters during initial Cylon attack and had been fighiting for long.... without resupply...

OTOH..we have no idea what Pegasus did.... and dont forget that Pegasus is much advanced ship then Galactica, so it is fair to think they have more firepower....
Galactica was museum when Cylons attacked..... with no supplies, no reserves, nothing....
just big ship in space, stripped of everything....

after all, they found their first Cylon when they went to resupply with ammo....

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

remember one thing.....
Galactica's newest fighter were destroyed when Cylons attacked.... only thing that saved Galactica was that it was old and practically "obsolete".....
only fighters that could fight Cylons were also old models....

everything else was corrupted by Baltar for Cylons.... so how to hell did Pegasus jump?
Cylons firinf nukes at shipyard...okie.... but why wouldnt they send out signal that would stop any Battle Star from leaving?

Baltar was working on updating the Colonial defence system, and gave the Cylons all the specs and codes. The Pegasus was just about to put into a dockyard for a three month refit when the Cylons attacked. Pegasus might not have had the latest systems or software, and might not have yet been suceptable to being disabled in the same way.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Baltar was working on updating the Colonial defence system, and gave the Cylons all the specs and codes. The Pegasus was just about to put into a dockyard for a three month refit when the Cylons attacked. Pegasus might not have had the latest systems or software, and might not have yet been suceptable to being disabled in the same way.

Ooooh, I like your theory better than mine!

 

[digitalwanderer]

Ok, SPOILER WARNING!!!! I found some info on the next show....

http://www.skyone.co.uk/SKYONEFORUM/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=77968


Now I said *SPOILER*, right?





SPOILER: (highlight)
"First up, a major spoiler to Episode 211 ("Resurrection Ship") is that Commander Adama is promoted to Admiral status and is now in charge of the Battlestars Galactica & Pegasus.

Secondly, SCI FI sources have indicated that Battlestar Galactica is a "go" for Season 3. While the official word has yet to be reported, producer and writer Ron Moore is already discussing story ideas to future episodes. According to Moore, "We�re looking into larger story arcs as to where the series is ultimately going...We�ve had preliminary discussions about conceptually what we want the third season to reflect and how we would approach it.� See more of Moore's latest interview at NowPlayingMagazine . "

 

[Tim Murray]

Baltar is obviously not a Cylon. Remember the vision of the kid on Kobol? Yeah.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Baltar is obviously not a Cylon. Remember the vision of the kid on Kobol? Yeah.

But how does that make Baltar not a Cylon? Mebbe it was to get him to protect the Human/Cylon child Sharon was carrying?

I also found this about the "mystery ship" on one of the Galactica forums I'm currently raping:

Theories are advanced, but nobody says the obvious -- that it's clearly the Ernestine switch operator ship for transmitting dead Cylon souls back to the Cylonplex.

 

[Tim Murray]

But how does that make Baltar not a Cylon? Mebbe it was to get him to protect the Human/Cylon child Sharon was carrying?

Because he's the "father." The Sharon/Helo baby already has a father, and that was designed as an experiment to get the father and mother to love each other, so Baltar as father makes no sense. There's going to be *another* baby, I'd think.

 

[Babel-17]

But what IS "Baltar's Six"? Is she a Cylon/human consciousness projected into his head? We know he ain't got a chip, so that's questionable...



My theory is that Baltar is a Cylon/human, and she is his sub-conscious way of staying on his unknown-to-him Cylon mission....part of the grander unknown Cylon plot for humanity. (Which is NOT to wipe them out, I'm pretty sure)

Bold added by me.

Assuming good ol' Doc isn't a Cylon himself ..... and his equipment is reliable. :smile:

Speaking in general terms, the shows creative talent have a lot of leeway when it comes to pulling rabbits out of the hat. But one of the reasons I admire the show is that they show a lot of restraint in that area. They maintain consistency and don't leave too many loose (inconsistent) threads dangling.

I'm of the inclination that some portion of Baltar's brain has been hacked. Either through insertion of a device or through depositing an "image" of another personality onto his brains cells.

Mmmm, Robert Silverburg in his novel To Live Again was one of the first to broach that theme, people who have extra personalities grafted on. In his case it was a way to achieve a form of quasi-immortality. Naturally Herbert with his Dune novels has his own unique spin on that.

Huh, I just now had a thought ...... the Cylons take surviving the death of their physical form pretty seriously. Might not grafting ones conciousness onto a human be a backup method in case they can't broadcast it back to a Cylon ship?

If so ........ just who was nearest the Cylon who got spaced? He sure did seem to enjoy getting into Starbuck's head during the interrogation, lol.

Edit: To Live Again was first published in 1969, the Amazon link suggests a much later date.

Edit 2: Grrrr. I inadvertently pasted within digi's quote. Sorry!

 

[bouy]

Just curious, where did you get the "4 times or more Vipers" from? Anything having to do with Pegasus' capabilities compared to Galactica's are hot topics for me.

Well, my analysis comes from the fact that the Galactica was about to be retired. The fighters Galactica had at first were the Mk VII's but they got owned in the first battle when they got hacked. So Adama got the crew to salvage a whole squardron of Mk II's from the Starboard side of the ship. since Galactica had already been retrofitted to beome a museum and the whole starboard side flight pod was converted to include a gift shop that was taking up space.

So the Galactica has been using one flight pod the whole time and they have a few dozen or so fighters left with a handful of Mk VII's that survived and got refitted without the new computers that were easily hacked. Apollo still had his Mk VII in the miniseries he left behind because he took his father's Mk II out. And the fleet that Roslin had put together before they arrived at Ragnar Anchorage probably had a few stragglers from the military consisting of Vipers.

Now with the Pegasus, she is a ship of war, fully supplied and ready to fight. She probably has machine shops like on real Aircraft Carriers to make needed parts. Even a flight simulator the Galactica lacked in season one. And, the Pegasus had full capability of both her flight pods. At the ending scene with fighters from both ships converging you can see a lot of Vipers launching from the Pegasus and more coming from off screen, so Pegasus probably launched all of her Viper Wings from both flight pods. If Galactica had as many Vipers as they did which was not even a full compliment for one flight pod, the Pegasus with two fully operational flight pods would have somewhere around four times or even more vipers than Galactica. All of them being the newer Mk VII's. And since Pegasus is pretty much a top of the line ship, it probably has a bigger flight pod and all. There were even the big guns located on the sides of the Pegasus right next to the launch tubes for the Vipers. I watched it again and noticed them taking aim at the Galactica.

 

[Babel-17]

But how does that make Baltar not a Cylon? Mebbe it was to get him to protect the Human/Cylon child Sharon was carrying?

I also found this about the "mystery ship" on one of the Galactica forums I'm currently raping:

Wow, I totally missed that, thanks!

Definitely possible but I have to muse that over.

If this is so then I suspect it has other significant functions. I would have thought a smaller ship would fullfill the basic operations. I mean, a receiver and a data storage unit would meet the bare-bones requirements, no?

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Ok, SPOILER WARNING!!!! I found some info on the next show....

http://www.skyone.co.uk/SKYONEFORUM/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=77968


Now I said *SPOILER*, right?

I thought of this as being the easiest way out of the problem, but there is no upper echelon of military to do this. Could the president do this?

That was a great moment when the president suddenly realises that Adama is now having to take orders from someone else: "Madame President, you look like someone just shot your dog".

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Well, my analysis comes from the fact that the Galactica was about to be retired. The fighters Galactica had at first were the Mk VII's but they got owned in the first battle when they got hacked.

But Pegasus was about to go in for a long refit, with most of the crew on extended leave. Pegasus "lost seven hundred crew" in the first attack. Even if they have the fighters, they don't have the crew, and they've got no civilian fleet to try and pull new pilots from.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Well if Adama had to defer to the president of the 12 councils I'd tend to think that the military in general has to defer to the 12 councils.....but I dunno.

I disagree Baron, although I do see your point...but the kid never actually _existed_....it was just a dream child.