Blue Dragon will ship on 3 DVDs.

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I don't like this one bit

Blue Dragon is still an early 360 game and it's already take up 3 DVD, compress!. Disc swapping is the thing of the past, we shouldn't have to do it anymore IMO. I want my games on one dics, seamlessly.


Just my 2 cents

I really hope you don't need to pee those 35+ hours it takes to finish the game, that would ruin the whole seamless experience:rolleyes: ...
 
I really hope you don't need to pee those 35+ hours it takes to finish the game, that would ruin the whole seamless experience:rolleyes: ...

Yeah, I mean taking a break every 15 hours to swap a game disc could snowball into other stuff like working, sleeping, or, gasp leading a normal life. I remember when FF7 came out, all of my friends were boycotting the PS because they couldnt stand the idea of lifting their arms.
 
I don't like this one bit

Blue Dragon is still an early 360 game and it's already take up 3 DVD, compress!. Disc swapping is the thing of the past, we shouldn't have to do it anymore IMO. I want my games on one dics, seamlessly.


Just my 2 cents

Then you should buy a PS man. You would need those 2 cents though.

Like others have said, some of the best games ever where on multiple discs. Including the best game of 2005.

Nothing to see here.
 
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But more discs is better. That's why people buy those two disc special editions of DVD's, because they think they get better value because there's more things in the box ;)

Multi disc games aren't that big a deal when you look at it just in light of disc swapping and the annoance of it. If it happens rarely, it's not that bad.
But for developers it could be a bigger pain in the ass, limiting the freedom of design and possibly forcing more linear gameplay experiences, unless you want to put the burden of swapping disc 1 every time you move between "island one" and "island two" in a GTA game on the player (just a made up example).
 
But more discs is better. That's why people buy those two disc special editions of DVD's, because they think they get better value because there's more things in the box ;)

Multi disc games aren't that big a deal when you look at it just in light of disc swapping and the annoance of it. If it happens rarely, it's not that bad.
But for developers it could be a bigger pain in the ass, limiting the freedom of design and possibly forcing more linear gameplay experiences, unless you want to put the burden of swapping disc 1 every time you move between "island one" and "island two" in a GTA game on the player (just a made up example).

This I agree with, and that has been my only concern when it comes to the DVD format, which is that it might prevent from making open/non linear games, or atleast make it very difficult. But I do believe that ther is hope, such as making the movies in-engine which I am sure would remove most of the space required, and heavy use of procedural textures. Furthemore, for those with an HDD if MS updates the system it might even be possible to install one DVD and play wih the other in the tray, that would suck for those with no HDD though...
 
Well, at least we know approximately how linear Blue Dragon is going to be. Definitely not going to be much like, say, X-2 or something similar. ;)
 
It could be divided in three bigger areas, planets maybe. So that you can not, or don't need to travel between the planets but you'd have more freedom when in one planet.
Definitely different in freedom to a game like, say Dragon Quest VIII, but possibly larger in scope, so on one disc you might thave an area comparable to DQVIII's freedom and scope, and on second disc another area that's as big and free roaming.

Linearity isn't a bad thing necessarily though. I think I've generally enjoyed the linear, more narrative games more than those that give too much freedom at the expense of story and tight gameplay.
DQVIII was pretty much a very good balance between linearity and freedom. The story was linear, but the world very free to explore. Also the random battles discouraged you to wander off too far in your freedom.
 
Well, there is he possibility as others have said that the "game" data is the same on all the discs meaning you have full freedom, and what changes are the FMVs that are "linear"...
 
that's possible, and a clever solution. But if the videos were made with in-game engine it would've probably fit on one disc then.
 
Well, technically, it's not needed, but the extra capacity sure as hell would be nice to have :D
Shorter games, or multiple discs. Which one is the bigger trade-off, in publisher point of view.
 
I do wonder though what impact this will have in Japan. In Asia, the developers/publishers all but outright screamed with dismay upon hearing that HD-DVD was a no go for 360. Now we have a high-profile JRPG coming out for the 360, and it is on 3 DVDs, just a year after the system has been released ...

So the big question is, will this bundle still appeal to the Japanese audience, or will it appeal to the Western audience only. Or will it just boost Sony?
 
I'm glad it ships with 3 discs, it just means that I get lot's of content :)
I also think it's a bit too early to start doing some major speculation about it's linearity.
 
So then Microsoft, Blu-Ray really isn't needed after all :LOL:
Nope it isn't.No harm done with this multi-disk release.

All the geniuses,what would you have MS do??Release an ultra expensive xbox360 at the same time with the ps3 and have the same ,or even worse,problems than sony??At least Sony has a lot of things to gain from blue ray so they can sustain the problems it has created for future significant gains.On the other hand an HDDVD xbox360 would only cause problems for MS.hell i think they wouldn't even have a chance.Sony,after 250 million consoles sold at the previous generations,are facing serious problems with the ps3 both financially(huge losses) and in terms of marketshare with the double attack of xbox360/Wii.Can you imagine how bad things would be for the xbox360??

I'll wait until i see a problem with the storage from games other than CGI-heavy Japanese Rpgs before declaring the DVD format obselete.
 
I'll wait until i see a problem with the storage from games other than CGI-heavy Japanese Rpgs before declaring the DVD format obselete.

Well, the DVD format IS obsolete whatever way you look at it, but that doesn't change the fact that a game like this can very well be in more than one disc.

The only game i have finished that was on more than one disc was FF7 and to be honest, i had to change the disc twice in the whole 80 hours i played it. Which basically translates to two instances where i had to get up and change a disc, in more than 5 months i got from the game.

Seriously, if lots of people can find a problem with that, there's something very wrong with society.

Next they'll complain that they have to get up more than once every time they play games to go to the loo!! Unacceptable!! Sony and MS should have thought about a solution to integrate consoles with toilets, so that we can have a wee without ever getting up from the couch! Pun totally intended.
 
Nope it isn't.No harm done with this multi-disk release.

All the geniuses,what would you have MS do??Release an ultra expensive xbox360 at the same time with the ps3 and have the same ,or even worse,problems than sony??At least Sony has a lot of things to gain from blue ray so they can sustain the problems it has created for future significant gains.On the other hand an HDDVD xbox360 would only cause problems for MS.hell i think they wouldn't even have a chance.Sony,after 250 million consoles sold at the previous generations,are facing serious problems with the ps3 both financially(huge losses) and in terms of marketshare with the double attack of xbox360/Wii.Can you imagine how bad things would be for the xbox360??

I'll wait until i see a problem with the storage from games other than CGI-heavy Japanese Rpgs before declaring the DVD format obselete.
It's all about MS PR bable. I do not personally care if a game comes on one disk or fifty, back in the old days when I was playing Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis and I was changing disks on my Amiga sometimes 3 times between scenes, this day and age with conveniently/smartly placed disk change sections it really isn't a huge deal, what makes it a huge deal is MS blabing for the last 2 years that blu-ray was a waste and DVD9s will be good enough for this generation. Clearly that is not the case, does it matter if the dev has filled the space with HD cutscenes? Not really, all that matters is they need more space than they can get on a single disk, contrary to what the mighty PR machine has been trying to say.

I am not sure of the prices involved, but I am sure it will cost less to master one blu-ray and get it pressed than 3 dvds and get them pressed, not to mention the extra costs of the packaging.
 
If we start arguing PR from companies,Sony is going to look much worse than MS.

I am not talking about the cost for games i am talking about the cost of the console.Anyway i think that DVD will be enough for like 95% of the games of this generation.
 
I am not sure of the prices involved, but I am sure it will cost less to master one blu-ray and get it pressed than 3 dvds and get them pressed, not to mention the extra costs of the packaging.

Packaging maybe, but pressing? Nah.

Still, it would have been nice to have it all on one disc...
 
I am not talking about the cost for games i am talking about the cost of the console.Anyway i think that DVD will be enough for like 95% of the games of this generation.
It will seem that way, as there will be very few "dev-cut" games (ie the version with nothing removed to save space) for a couple of years.

When/if the PS3 is the market leader and more devs start writing their games on PS3 first, the limitations will become far more apparent.
 
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