scooby_dooby
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BS. Sony would not be eating these massive losses if there weren't a huge payoff down the road. BR is there to push the standard, and increased game storage is simply a bonus. You're taking the Sony PR hook line and sinker...
Blue Dragon will ship on 3 DVDs.
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BS. Sony would not be eating these massive losses if there weren't a huge payoff down the road. BR is there to push the standard, and increased game storage is simply a bonus. You're taking the Sony PR hook line and sinker...
Not feasibly. What a ridiculous argument. 3 DVD's is sure comparable to 30 CD's....riiiiight
And 1 disc is better than 3. When do we stop?
scooby_dooby
Legend
When you gain an ounce of common sense I guess...
And you're being too cynical of Sony. Just because there is a second bird to hit with a stone, doesn't mean that the primary reason is not valid. The original idea is that the increased disc capacity could be beneficial to games, and there are now real examples of such.
I rest assured I will not need to swap discs as often as you do.
scooby_dooby
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Awesome, good for you!
scooby_dooby
Legend
If the only benefits are the lack of disc swapping, then the incluision of BR will be a collosal failure as far as it's use in games goes.
Swapping discs is a complete non-issue for most sane people...
I do think DVD will become a limiting factor in some open ended games, but we can only wait and see how that plays out, and when thatplays out. For now, DVD is absolutely fine and multiple disc games were to be expected.
The benefits are not limited to disc swapping (given the choice, most people would rather not). You cannot have a seamless world experience if you have to swap discs. That's why we aren't stuck on CDs (of course, if there were no other choice, most people would just live with it).
No you don't! Haven't you seen South Park's take on WoW? It's completely true.
I figure the best use of the extra space in the interim is data redundancy to ease random disc accessing. It'd be interesting to find out how much space they would have saved (for Blue Dragon) if they didn't go with FMVs.
It might be intrusive if you walked through the gates of one area and you were asked to change discs. If it is a non-linear world, you may well be on the edge of two separated areas, requiring disc changes more frequently - you don't just swap the number of times as there are discs.
It might also be intrusive if an increasing number of games require you to swap discs.
From a developer's perspective, your streaming world might have trouble streaming from a second disc.
Well yours is the worst case scneario. Theyve likely duplicated content on the discs so that once you switch discs, if you go 'back' you wont need to swap again.
your right this can be a issue for some cross platefrom game using a lot fmv.
I remember how baldur gates shadows of ams was painfull (like fuck i've forgotten something in the damned city...) before i found the no cd hack (the game was on four cd)
Anyway we will see, on the ps3 every body can swap the hard drive, some games already instal themselves on the hdd to lower acces time.
We will see how MS will adapt (if it become a really issue), depending on the attachement rate for hhd and their position on hdd upgrade, ms can find some work over.
installing the huge games (code, sound,texture=dvd1) on the hdd (boring the first time) and then playing the fmv from dvd2.
Anyway I hate fmv heavy games, but i don't pretend my tastes set some kind of standard
So wait and see, ms can react in some manner to soften this issue.
Edit expletive point is interesting that way you avoid instal
That is a possible scenario, though if you need to get pass the duplicated content, you'll still need to swap. Of course, the risk is reduced the larger the duplications, but it means less space again for the original content.
crazygambit
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Are the multilanguage soundtracks included? Somehow I doubt it, as it doesn't lend itself to well to disc swapping. I swear to god, if all Bluray brings to the table is the ability to switch to japanese language and keep english text on FFXIII, then the $100 premium is more than justified IMO. If multiplatform games can offer that option on PS3 and not on 360 because of DVDs then that's a deal breaker to me. In fact I hope to never again have to suffer through a crappy dub.
scooby_dooby
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I'm 10x's more concerned about load times while in game than I am about disc swapping, that's something that actually effects your gameplay enjoyment.
Both does, (for the reasons that I stated). In terms of load times, aren't HDD immensely faster?
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