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yeah for like 10 minutes. till you realize all the crap they tell you about them is just that. then it's back to the sweet sweet vidcard.

Never, ever!!!!!

 

[martrox]

Hmmm....play a game or play with a beautiful woman........Talk about a no brainer!

 

[CMAN]

Hmmm....play a game or play with a beautiful woman........Talk about a no brainer!

How about both at the same time.

 

[Skinner]

How about both at the same time.

Some things won't mix well

 

[Xmas]

what about HDR (FP10) + MSAA?

FP10 doesn't require more memory.

 

[Junkstyle]

I was being somewhat sarcastic

That said, I've seen some DOF in game videos and it actually looks quite pleasing.

But if you're trying to spot movement at 200m distance amongst the foliage without bino assistance, having depth of field is going to make you dead. Very quickly.

Jawed

Yeah that's what I was thinking. DOF would be great for cutscenes but when you are in a firefight it would be quite annoying to have to move your crosshairs to get stuff into focus. Also, how would the game know if you were looking 10 feet infront of you or 200 yards in front of you at a sniper on a roofttop?

 

[Ady]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. DOF would be great for cutscenes but when you are in a firefight it would be quite annoying to have to move your crosshairs to get stuff into focus. Also, how would the game know if you were looking 10 feet infront of you or 200 yards in front of you at a sniper on a roofttop?

I would really be interested in a scroll wheel controllable focal point with dof.

 

[KimB]

I would really be interested in a scroll wheel controllable focal point with dof.

Actually, that could be rather cool for long-range sniping. I'm sure that any longer-range sniper rifles with good scopes require some focus control....

 

[rwolf]

I can't help but think people are missing one situation where extra RAM would be very useful.

To store all the geometry for the built in PPU.

 

[Junkstyle]

To store all the geometry for the built in PPU.

so is the idea behind having a physics processing unit (PPU) in the GPU because it can handle vector and matrix math/calculations fast?

 

[Junkstyle]

Is there really a reason AF should be less than 16x permanently anymore? If so, enlighten me, I don't see it

Why stop at 16? They should do 32x for people like you!

Anyways to enlighten you. You get a significant performance increase going from 16x to 8x in most games. Thats right, I actually play video games with my card. I would really like to see if someone could tell the difference of 8x and 16x AF when the action gets heated in BF2. The AF quality difference between 8x and 16x is the last thing I'm worried about. But when the sht hits the fan and my FPS drop that concerns me. So I go for more FPS.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Moloch]

Why stop at 16? They should do 32x for people like you!

Anyways to enlighten you. You get a significant performance increase going from 16x to 8x in most games. Thats right, I actually play video games with my card. I would really like to see if someone could tell the difference of 8x and 16x AF when the action gets heated in BF2. The AF quality difference between 8x and 16x is the last thing I'm worried about. But when the sht hits the fan and my FPS drop that concerns me. So I go for more FPS.

Different strokes for different folks.

Some people play slower paced games
In those games IQ differences show up.. fsaa af, filtering quality etc.

 

[KimB]

so is the idea behind having a physics processing unit (PPU) in the GPU because it can handle vector and matrix math/calculations fast?

It doesn't matter, because it's not happening. Certainly not this generation, anyway. Nor next generation. nVidia and ATI have more than enough on their plates worrying about 3D graphics performance and video acceleration.

 

[Ailuros]

Is there really a reason AF should be less than 16x permanently anymore? If so, enlighten me, I don't see it

If you disable optimisations on all current GPUs, there might be a very good reason for lowering the amount of samples.

 

[Geo]

Never mind the customer base, Ail --could you explain "8 > 16" to the PR department?

You'd have to change the slider to read "Meh --> S'alright--> Hmm! -->Wow!"

 

[Kombatant]

If you disable optimisations on all current GPUs, there might be a very good reason for lowering the amount of samples.

Disabling optimizations is imo unnessecary; especially if they produce the same end result. And frankly, end result is all we should care about, not the means to get there.

 

[Mark]

Disabling optimizations is imo unnessecary; especially if they produce the same end result. And frankly, end result is all we should care about, not the means to get there.

Now where have I head that before...

 

[digitalwanderer]

STOP IT YOU TWO!!!

If you must fight go do it at Rage3D's staff forums...

 

[noko]

Only problem with using optimizations I seem to see them everytime, at least on my 6800GT that is.

 

[ZoinKs!]

I can't help but think people are missing one situation where extra RAM would be very useful.

Image and/or Video editing? Fits nicely with the Avivo push.

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wrt "how much af is enough?" I can see the difference between 8x - 16x in most shooters. But I haven't played bf 2 enough to comment on that particular title. And my 9800 is starting to show it's age in newer games so I can't always use high settings.

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wrt optimizations, make the defaults look identical or nearly identical. And let me easily adjust them on and off if I want. I haven't had any complaints about Catalyst AI... yet.