Huh!? it's not released yet, maybe in a few weeks. First they want to test with 337 drivers, and then decide the clocks now the 295x2 is out to look at.
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Huh!? it's not released yet, maybe in a few weeks. First they want to test with 337 drivers, and then decide the clocks now the 295x2 is out to look at.
UniversalTruth
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Oh, excuse me then. I thought it was already released. 
Anyways, the performance results of R9 295X2 are very very good for a 4K setup.
Anyways, the performance results of R9 295X2 are very very good for a 4K setup.
Seems mileage will vary:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-radeon-r9-295x2-review
DavidGraham
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Seems to be game specific, mainly games that are not (AMD evolved titles) such as Arkham Origins, Assassin's 4 and COD Ghosts.
http://techreport.com/review/26279/amd-radeon-r9-295-x2-graphics-card-reviewed/13
For both of these, it seems that the best case for AMD is roughly equal the NV SLI option, but the worst case is, well, worse. Said another way, a few lucky games can be considered equal in performance, the remainder are likely experiencing worse performance.
Back to my original point: this release is certainly better than GCN 1.0 in framerate consistency, and the dual GPU is serving up overall performance. But considering the cost (in both purchase and operational price) and the resultant performance, it's still vying for second place at best.
Perhaps it's just a perception thing for me, and others may not see it that way. I feel like I"m being unbiased here, but perhaps I'm just tired of having AMD cards for the last eight years. I honestly don't think that's the case...
Or said another way, a few unlucky games can be considered worse in performance, the remainder are likely experiencing equal performance
At least 'till someone shows notable collection of different game results for both platforms proving one way or another
DavidGraham
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This seems particularly correct with the persective of DX9 and DX10 games, CF in general fails to deliver consistent performance there. NV on the other hands excels. All games now are DX11, but still 90% of games are DX9, or 10. And giving that the situation in even some DX11 games are not rosy. I can relate.
SERIOUSLY? On a $1400 card, after the same thing happened with the AMD dual tahiti boards as well. Jesus wept!
UniversalTruth
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Hmm, I thought AMD commented on the issue and why it is not possible to solve it. Did they?
I haven't run across an update with an explanation yet, but I'm not done reading all the links.
My single-Hawaii ASUS card has no coil whine. I've also never heard coil whine from any motherboard VRMs since...ever. In any case, ASUS uses solid ceramic inductors in their high-end graphics cards and mobos that resist whining*. It seems AMD did not think the minor additional expense of such components was worth it in their premium design.
*It just struck me, this solution may be something that should be employed on the internet as a whole!
*It just struck me, this solution may be something that should be employed on the internet as a whole!
UniversalTruth
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Well, on 28 nm with this level of performance in actual gaming applications, it is inevitable.
Two of the complaints, however, are possible to be solved after careful re-engineering, the coil whine if not removed, at least shifted to frequency ranges which are not detectable by human ears, and second- improving the water cooling solution because it is still under-whelming and troublesome. I don't like the card in the shape.
Maybe with R9 395X2 they will finally learn how to make it perfect and have a just right to ask so much money for it!
UniversalTruth
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Let's forget JHH's prices and focus on 6990 and 7990's prices.
prices don't exist in a vacuum.
The older cards were priced less but that's because of their performance compared to the competition and their pricing.
like it or not , until the 780x2 or whatever it will be called launches this is the single fastest board out there. Yes its priced higher compared to sli 780s or r290xts but its a single board , water cooled .
I really want to see 2 of these boards combined and how the performance is. Yea its 3k worth of graphics cards but it be cool to see.
I suspect the new gen of graphics cards will bring similar performance as one of these boards in a much more price friendly single gpu.
UniversalTruth
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This is not a proper water cooling, more likely semi-air, semi-water kind of hybrid. I am actually quite curious about the card's temperatures after, let's say, several hours of non-stop 100% gaming. 
And I would prefer two R9 290Xs because if something happens to one of them, the other will still be running, while if something happens to R9 295X2, that would be its end.
And I would prefer two R9 290Xs because if something happens to one of them, the other will still be running, while if something happens to R9 295X2, that would be its end.
I guess i will post this here, before someone posts the wccftech version.
http://extremespec.net/amd-pirate-islands-announced-summer/
http://extremespec.net/amd-pirate-islands-announced-summer/
This is a month old but wccftech are claiming to be the first with this info, obviously they are not.
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