An API is software too. Sure, it would go beyond the normal scope of DirectX, but why not? Besides, if this were compatible with the next Xbox, it could be a very profitable investment for MS.
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An API is software too. Sure, it would go beyond the normal scope of DirectX, but why not? Besides, if this were compatible with the next Xbox, it could be a very profitable investment for MS.
AMD's own roadmaps show 2013.
Article with image here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5491/amds-2012-2013-client-cpugpuapu-roadmap-revealed
So much for AMD's next gen coming Q4 2012, let alone Q1 2013.
Blazkowicz
Legend
My argument is loose, sure.
What I think is MS's job is to provide an API for efficient generic computation (a new version of DirectCompute) and there should go the physics calculations.
DirectX 12 would foremost bring support for HSA (as in the new Xbox). It could transparently support nvidia Maxwell, which integrates CPUs so should be able to do things Xbox and AMD APU/GPU can do.. But there may be serious political problems and what will happen is unknown.
How exactly did you plan to make those ARM cores suddenly work like x86 CPUs?
Blazkowicz
Legend
Good call. But same code can be compiled to x64 or ARM 64 (as long as it doesn't do too funny low level things), beforehand or JIT.
But really I have no idea how things will look like one or two years from now.
But really I have no idea how things will look like one or two years from now.
What's wrong with C++ AMP for that? It's probably significantly preferable to "write a shader" shenanigans.
Blazkowicz
Legend
Nothing.
To be fair, I've long forgotten about it, or that it was by Microsoft.
It's kind of an API, given what we can see there?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/vstudio/hh265136.aspx
Microsoft does what they want btw, this could be used in classic Windows, RT and Xbox.
Blazkowicz
Legend
In the context of a game, and with a GPU that can't really multitask (it's for the gen after jaguar/xbox/steamroller/radeon 8000) you would maybe use DirectCompute as a wrapper that calls that C++ AMP code?
Blazkowicz
Legend
Was there any tech demo? I don't remember anything since the days of Dawn and Ruby.
It used to be you would download awesome videos of what unforeseen stuff a new hardware gen can do.
Lately, I only remember nvidia Kepler demos where they pour water in a glass tank, shatter three cylinder things and collide two galaxies.
Maybe you really have to pay attention nowadays, or a good demo for something as powerful as current cards would cost over a million because of the arts assets..
It used to be you would download awesome videos of what unforeseen stuff a new hardware gen can do.
Lately, I only remember nvidia Kepler demos where they pour water in a glass tank, shatter three cylinder things and collide two galaxies.
Maybe you really have to pay attention nowadays, or a good demo for something as powerful as current cards would cost over a million because of the arts assets..
GCN's tech demo was Leo, which was used to show off AMD's MSAA-compatible DirectCompute based lighting system.
OpenGL guy
Veteran
Can't multitask? AMD's HD7xxx GPUs already support asynchronous compute and graphics in OpenCL. That means you can run heavy compute apps and, generally, your desktop will still remain responsive. This also means that if you have an OpenCL renderer plug-in for, say, 3DSMax, you can still interact with the GUI while the rendering is being done. It's not foolproof, as there is no context switching, but it's a huge step forward.
Blazkowicz
Legend
I know nothing, really.
Alright, the knight and damsel one. It's beautiful, though short.
Alright, the knight and damsel one. It's beautiful, though short.
I think you was speaking mostly about Physic demo, but well..
- 5000 series: 2 videos : Lady Bug and the mecha
- 6900 series: a bad mecha video ( to forget )
- and effectively 7970: Leo demo
Good marketing - they forced themself to release a clarification.
looking forward to it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2027...on-and-quickly-clarify-2013-radeon-plans.html
looking forward to it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2027...on-and-quickly-clarify-2013-radeon-plans.html
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